Only 150k? How is that enough to start a production line for 400 euro smartphones? Or is it just a rebranded phone?
Interesting concept, but seems just like a phone with privacy switches and a non-Google OS. How is it on security, hardening? How would it compare to GrapheneOS?
To be fair, GrapheneOS does require a Pixel, but that’s because those phones are the best in terms of security, and can be privacy as well.
I think these kinds of devices are for different audiences.
GrapheneOS would probably best suit people that don’t trust the software on their device, but completely trust the hardware.
The Murena or a Pinephone with hardware switches would be ideal for someone who trusts the software, but wants the ability to control the hardware.
Practically, this appeals to people who are considering things like Qualcomm’s GPS in some SoCs bypassing the OS to request almanac data, using the cellular modem directly IIRC (gets worse: unencrypted http and includes your IMEI in plaintext). This doesn’t happen in Pixel devices because there it is handled in software entirely, and of course those don’t use a Qualcomm SoC
It’s open source and has aggressive privacy features so hopefully there will be data on whether it’s worthwhile soon. If it’s a good OS + has privacy focused hardware, it could be more compelling than a Pixel without hardware switches for the ultra privacy minded
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I run their OS /e/ on my fairphone 4. As someone who just uses a phone for basic stuff its the tits, no bs, no google apps required at all. The built-in tracker blocking etc is great and I like the basic interface.
Biggest bonus is that my phone lasts maybe 50% longer on a single charge. Was super easy to install too.
No paying with NFC though, but I don’t mind, I always had my wallet anyway.
Stuff like NFC payments are one of the reasons that kind of stick with stock Android. I want to use something else, but it’s kind of hard for me to accept losing functionality.
What a terrible approach to security.
You wouldn’t need hardware switches if you could trust your software not to try and fuck you.
Fuck android and fuck Google.
Well, fuck Google.
Android isn’t at fault here. Get a non-Google version of Android and a phone runs faster, with significantly less battery consumption.
Google services really screw the pooch, as they say. Lineage/DivestOS and Graphene are lightning fast on my 2018 flagship. I get a day out of it now, (with it’s old battery) , when it was new I got half a day…at best. Google Services consume upward of 8% per hour, depending on installed apps.
I’m talking about the fact that if you need to rely on physical switches, your security is already compromised. Correct me if I am wrong but the AOSP forks are still using binary blobs for the modem, which means even if you’re running those forks, you still cannot reasonably trust the software.
That’s a good point, unfortunately.
It’s all a result of Android being a monolithic OS. I’d bet when Google bought Android (around 2000, it was still fresh), this was a “kkown issue” and Google decided they just needed to get it out there, rather than develop a standard hardware interface layer.
I’m sure they also considered the advantage to them (and vendors) in being able to force dependence on those drivers.
I just want a de-googled 200-250€ smartphone with a headphone jack.
Get a Sony Xperia III, update the original firmware to Android 13, unlock the bootloader then install the corresponding version of LineageOS (or any GSI ROM made for 13).
Doesn’t the Pixel 5 have a jack?
I actually had to check, since I never use them. No, it does not.
They’ve always had a power button.
The fact my battery dies in a week when the phone is supposedly off tells me all I need to know.
why the fuck has it always to be an iPhone clone… it’s embarrassing.
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No headphone jack
Good for them. The Murena One was just a rebranded OED. This one is interesting, because of the switches, but the processor isn’t exactly brand spanking new.
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