• Zombiepirate@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Oh look, the taxes are theft guy (who will vote for Trump) is here to say how little someone else knows about economics.

    I’m sure all that wealth will start to trickle down any minute now though.

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      6 months ago

      Funny, I don’t remember ever saying taxes are theft by default. What I have said is the tax system should be fair.

      Bernie has suggested this, such as taxing wealth, which is unconstitutional. He didn’t propose an amendment; he just wanted to tax wealth. He didn’t even realize that it was against the Constitution. He also said it’s unfair that Elon didn’t pay more in income tax when he made a dollar that year. He couldn’t even be bothered to look up Elon’s income.

      He says things so his plebes will clap without realizing it isn’t an intelligent or viable solution.

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        6 months ago

        What I have said is the tax system should be fair.

        By reducing the amount that the people who benefit most (by orders of magnitude) from our society pay into it. Yeah. That sure sounds fair to me.

        What an intelligent and viable solution!

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              6 months ago

              The rich already pay more than their fair taxes. If you have a cite to show otherwise, I would love to see it.

              https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/federal/rich-pay-their-fair-share-of-taxes/

              As this chart shows, The top 1% pay 40% of all taxes but only bring in 20% of the income. That is paying their fair share.

              The top 5% pay 20% of the taxes but only bring in 15% of the income.

              So yes, I deserve a tax cut, and most likely, you deserve a tax increase.

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                6 months ago

                Wait, I thought you never said that?

                That paper ignores people’s capacity to pay.

                Even the Bible recognizes that a poor widow’s mite is a bigger ask than a wealthy person’s contribution of a larger portion of their income. That was written two thousand years ago, but somehow conservatives still haven’t come to the same obvious conclusion.

                Our society is specifically set up to funnel money to oligarchs, and then they cry about having to contribute to that system? Boo fucking hoo.

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                  6 months ago

                  Why are you quoting the bible? The bible also says I shouldn’t eat shellfish. Leave your sky God out of the discussion.

                  That paper ignores people’s capacity to pay.

                  People need to be responsible for their finances. The answer isn’t to make other people pay your way in life. As California and New York learned, people will leave and their budgets are wrecked.

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                    6 months ago

                    If you actually read what I wrote you’d understand my point.

                    Nothing you said to me is a response to my post.

                    Try again.

                    Your peacocking value judgement is adorable, but irrelevant.

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                6 months ago

                The rich already pay more than their fair taxes.

                Yeah. Don’t listen to this guy.

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                    6 months ago

                    It really boils down to this: why would you go to bat for people who have more than you? They only get more by taking in more than they put out. This is called “maximizing profit.”

                    At every turn, the people you’re defending do not say “Neuromancer pays his fair share of x.” They always look for ways to get you to pay the absolute most that you are willing and able.

                    It does not make sense for people like you to say millionaires “pay their fair share” when they only become wealthy due to exploitation of everyone else who has to work for a living.

                    The fact this needs to be explained to you really shows how unaware you are of the world you live in. If you’re over the age of 18 and you still haven’t figured these basic facts out, that means you’re being taken advantage of left and right without even realizing it.

                    “A fool and his money are soon parted.”