tl;dr :

  • Hexchat IRC client app development stopped
  • Linux Mint team was building IRC client to replace Hexchat
  • The team tried Matrix and liked it
  • Linux Mint’s communication channels are moving from IRC to Matrix
  • The desktop app will be named Matrix to avoid confusion
  • cosmicrookie@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Why have preinstalled apps though? Hear me out… i am very new to Linux and enjoying it quite much.

    But most of the preinstalled programs that came with mint, i have not touched and never will.

    • smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de
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      6 months ago

      Because when interacting with other people to do something together it is more convenient not having to encourage them to install something. Like preinstalled Magic Wormhole for file sharing or something for remote desktop. FTP client is a must. Chat is nice to have.

      I use Arch btw.

    • shaytan@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      6 months ago

      Some will use the built in note editor, some the built in music player, some the built in video player, and now some will use matrix

      Mint isn’t overly bloated, or even “bloated”, these apps are useful for a decent part of the demographic, and having them preinstalled lowers the friction a new user feels when installing a new OS

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        6 months ago

        That does not make any sense if you read my comment. This is my point exactly. They are not saving me any time because i won’t use matrix and i wouldn’t have spent time installing it. . They may even be making it harder for me if i chose to uninstall it

        • GoodEye8@lemm.ee
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          6 months ago

          You’re not the only user. Other people may benefit even if you personally don’t. Getting software you don’t want is a compromise for getting an easy out the box installation that comes with what you want already pre-installed.

          If you want a more personalized approach there’s always forking a distro and customizing it so that it suits your needs (which is how Nobara came into being).

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            6 months ago

            If that was the case they would add a step in the installation giving you the option to have no preinstalled apps and choose between currated apps based on your expected use for this pc.

            I dont argue that its a great service. I am slightly opposed on it being a forced option

            • Liz@midwest.social
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              6 months ago

              Mint is aimed at normies. The fewer barriers to entry, the better. If you give users the option for a “clean” install there will be people who select it, not knowing what they’re doing, and then end up with a borderline non-functional computer as far as they’re concerned. To put it another way, they expect it to have stuff pre-installed. Finally, what counts as essentials and what counts as bloat? Text editor? Media player? Photo viewer? Internet browser?

              That being said, I understand why you might not like getting extra programs you didn’t ask for. Luckily, they’re very easy to uninstall and forget about.