• myslsl@lemmy.world
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    wut??? nobody in their right mind downloads that stuff! that is NOT what we are talking about, we are talking about movies and games and music

    I felt like it was pretty clear that I was not talking about things as small as pirating a couple movies and games from multimillion dollar companies?

    you really made this up out of nowhere. nobody defends distribuiting private pictures of people… and BTW in that case is not piracy by definition…

    Is it not piracy? Please clarify the difference to me?

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      1 year ago

      piracy is distributing copies of publicly available media.

      accessing a private device and making copies of personal content inside is illegal and unethical.

      making a copy of Frozen is not.

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        1 year ago

        piracy is distributing copies of publicly available media.

        Arguably software, films and music aren’t “publically available” in the sense that they’re only conditionally available to the public (ignoring piracy).

        But okay, lets take the pornographic example. Say they occasionally sell nude photos to acquaintances too. Now the photos are in some sense “publicly available” in the sense that some people can buy them. Is it now suddenly okay to pirate this media? If so, then why?

        accessing a private device and making copies of personal content inside is illegal and unethical.

        Did you not read my very first example where I claimed almost exactly that. What have you been thinking I was talking about?

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            Feel free to clarify why? At what point does my example become what we’re talking about? Is it the number of people the content is sold for? Is it the amount of money the content is sold for? Enlighten me.

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        1 year ago

        making a copy of Frozen is not.

        I feel like I’ve been pretty clear that this sort of example is not what I’m talking about…

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          1 year ago

          than you are not talking about piracy and this is not the place for that discussion.

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            1 year ago

            I don’t see why I need your permission? I feel like talking about when it is and isn’t ethical to reproduce data is appropriate in this sort of community.

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              1 year ago

              its not piracy.

              this is /c/piracy

              you dont need my permission you are just making a fool of yourself by trying to call piracy what is not piracy again in /c/piracy

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                its not piracy. this is /c/piracy

                The ethics of data reproduction have been discussed in piracy communities for decades. It’s a central topic to communities centered around data reproduction. Pretending otherwise is stupid.

                you dont need my permission you are just making a fool of yourself by trying to call piracy what is not piracy again in /c/piracy

                Am I? Or are you arguing in bad faith on a topic you didn’t bother to read the context of?