cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17792695

After slowly phasing the app out in some regions, Samsung has announced that it will no longer pre-install Samsung Messages…

  • woelkchen@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    What is the alternative? Or do you mean WhatsApp?

    There are plenty of alternatives. Do you live under a rock or why aren’t you aware of Signal, Telegram, etc.?

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      3 months ago

      SMS has one advantage over any other messaging service: Every cell phone that is currently in service is capable of sending and receiving SMS messages.

      WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram, Meebo, AIM, ICQ, Discord, Skype, Teams, Ventrilo, Roger Wilco, Slack, Hangouts, etc. are all optional. You have to install them. And which one a random American has installed is completely unpredictable. There’s also a good chance that “I use an iPhone so my religion requires me to use iMessage.”

      SMS WILL get through.

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        3 months ago

        Small point here too: SMS used to be a paid plan option in the US. I never paid for an SMS plan because iMessage was free over data (I just wouldn’t receive texts from Android users). There was a good amount of time when iMessage was legitimately a great option.

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          3 months ago

          I just wouldn’t receive texts from Android users

          So it’s not a cross-platform messenger.

          Other messengers existed before iMessage. Other societies didn’t refuse to accept cross-platform messengers. Installing wasn’t even hard back then.

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        3 months ago

        You have to install them.

        Yes, and people around the world do and aren’t hung up on green and blue bubbles.

        SMS WILL get through.

        SMS is the thing normal people use for two factor codes, not actual messaging and even for 2FA SMS is a bad idea because it’s so insecure.

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          3 months ago

          Literally nobody is hung up on bubble colours other than you and iPhone users… Most people don’t give a shit, and the added benefits of RCS basically bring it up to spec with a typical messenger, and since it’s pre-installed it means that you don’t need to worry about messenger app segregation. You don’t even need to create an account.

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            3 months ago

            Literally nobody is hung up on bubble colours other than you and iPhone users…

            Sure.

            Most people don’t give a shit

            Absolutely untrue. Not only do the handful of American Android users cry about that all the time, even Google cried about iMessage: https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/8/23951935/google-european-telcos-apple-imessage-digital-markets-act-core-platform-service-gatekeeper-lobbying

            You don’t even need to create an account.

            People make accounts all the time. With Google’s RCS, they have an account on Google’s servers.

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              3 months ago

              From the point of view of an Android user, iMessage falls back to SMS/MMS protocols, so when an iPhone user would click the heart reaction button in iMessage, you’d get a text message that says “Flig Fligerson loves your message.”

              Instead of pushing a client to other platforms, they deliberately just made the experience shit. I really don’t see the appeal in Apple products.

            • arty@feddit.org
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              3 months ago

              With Google’s RCS, they have an account on Google’s servers.

              Do they though? I had a feeling that RCS works through the carrier, that’s why a carrier needs to support RCS for it to work.

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                  3 months ago

                  tries to have internet fight.

                  shares documentation that is contrary to their argument.

                  To make sure your messages are properly delivered, Google uses information like your phone number, device identifiers, and SIM card number. This data may be stored for about a month in order to keep you connected to RCS and in cases where you temporarily go offline.

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              3 months ago

              A small handful of iOS users might complain about iOS, but a majority of us don’t give a shit and can’t understand why anybody would brag about having an inferior OS.

              And sure people make accounts all the time, but if doesn’t mean they enjoy doing it. I doubt most people enjoy having to flip between messenger, signal, telegram, and WhatsApp - and RCS fixes most of that since everybody has access to it, and SMS is still a main go-to for messaging in north America anyway.

              Any more stupid takes to share with us?