• masterofn001@lemmy.ca
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      3 months ago

      It’s clear bibi is not bargaining.

      So, what would be the point?

      Either kill them because bibi doesn’t care, blame it on bibi.

      Or release them all, and then watch bibi continue to slaughter kids, because bibi doesn’t care.

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        3 months ago

        Because the other option is to fight until everyone is dead? Maybe they should care about Gazans and not do that?

        I mean you’re basically saying give up and die.

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            3 months ago

            How about all the Palestinians who aren’t part of this resistance and just don’t want anyone to kill them? You know, like all the children? Maybe don’t just sacrifice them for the glorious revolution?

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                3 months ago

                Or how about rather than finger pointing and saying, “blame them if all the children die in the glorious revolution,” solutions should be found so that doesn’t happen?

                Why is stopping innocent people from dying not a consideration for so many people here? Just saying “blame Israel” doesn’t stop Israel from killing people. It’s not a solution.

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              3 months ago

              You know Israel routinely kills Palestinians regardless of this conflict or not. They were dying before and will die after as long as Israel is around.

              Maybe don’t sacrifice them to keep the human right abuse and genocidal status quo?

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                3 months ago

                Yet again- what is the solution to save lives? Because I keep hearing people suggesting that Israel will just kill everyone and, despite what someone else said, asking Israel to stop is not going to work.

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                  3 months ago

                  Should Ukraine surrender to Russia because it would save lives by ending the war?

                  • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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                    3 months ago

                    When did I say anything about surrendering?

                    Since when is a negotiated ceasefire a surrender?

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          3 months ago

          Not.at.all.

          I’m saying it doesn’t matter if they show any goodwill or they are saints, or if they mass murder them in public.

          Bibi doesn’t care.

          Bibi, and a lot of others are genocidal maniacs.

          The only option bibi leaves is to fight back.

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            3 months ago

            They are fighting back.

            They’re also massively outgunned, so they will lose eventually. At the expense of the rest of Gazans. Why is that an acceptable outcome to you rather than a negotiated ceasefire?

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              3 months ago

              Because bibi DOESNT CARE.

              There will NEVER BE A NEGOTIATED CEASEFIRE.

              Bibi is fucking evil.

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                So, again, you’re saying just let all the Gazans die.

                Because without a negotiated ceasefire, whether you think it will happen or not (and I would love to borrow your crystal ball), that is what will happen.

                There will be no other outcome.

                That is not acceptable.

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                  I believe they are saying that thanks to Bibi, there can’t be a cease-fire. They aren’t advocating for them to kill the hostages or hand them all over, they are saying regardless of what happens with the hostages Bibi is going to continue to indiscriminately kill Gazans. In a tongue in cheek manner it was suggested Bibi is using the hostages as an excuse for continued attacks, so if there aren’t hostages, there’s no excuse. I don’t think that was an honest suggestion, just gallows humor. But the point is valid that Bibi doesn’t actually care about the hostages and will keep genociding to his heart’s content.

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                    Thank you for your reading comprehension skills.

                    That’s exactly what I was getting at.

                    Edit: I mean, I said in my first response to that (now blocked) person was"the only option bibi leaves is to fight back"

                    I don’t know how that was unclear.

                  • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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                    I don’t think they are being tongue-in-cheek at all. From all I can see, they’re saying that there will be no negotiations, period, so Hamas needs to fight until everyone is dead.

                    Because, again, that is the only option I can see if there isn’t even a point in trying to negotiate. They are fighting a vastly superior force in a tiny space around a lot of innocent people.