Four Thieves Vinegar Collective has made DIY medicine cheaper and more accessible to the masses.
  • Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works
    271·
    2 months ago

    Or, you know, you could just have socialised medicine which encompasses the full health care cycle including diagnosis, monitoring, non drug treatments, tailored medical advice and preventative medicine.

    But yeah I guess if that’s off the table cheap drugs is cool too.

        • ravhall@discuss.online
          3·
          2 months ago

          I’m struggling to get the joke that I know is staring me in the face. Would you please help me out?

          • skyler@lemmy.worldEnglish
            4·
            2 months ago

            During covid, there were people taking ivermectin to treat it.

            Ivermectin for horses was a popular choice among these idiots.

            • ravhall@discuss.online
              3·
              2 months ago

              I figured that was the direction it was headed, but I had no idea they had an actual apple paste. But thinking about it, that makes a lot of sense for its intended audience (I mean horses, not republicans, haha).

              Do you think the republicans spread it on toast? Does “an apple toast a day keep the libtard ‘doctor’ away?” 😁

    • SteefLem@lemmy.world
      51·
      2 months ago

      Just like normal testing (well sort of). But from these you will hear only the failures just like from pharma companies you will only hear the hits.

  • als@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    84·
    2 months ago

    I know so many trans people who can’t access legal health care due to years long waiting lists or very expensive inaffective private health care. In the UK it’s between waiting ~4 years for health care or becoming a criminal.

  • WindyRebel@lemmy.world
    118·
    2 months ago

    Stupid.

    People diagnose incorrectly a lot, will probably take incorrect amounts, and if sick will take the medicine incorrectly leading to bacteria and viruses with immunity to more drugs.

    Just…let the doctors and pharmacists do the work, please? At least they have some training and understand interactions/classes of medicine.

    • umbrella@lemmy.ml
      23·
      2 months ago

      let the doctors and pharmacists do the work, please?

      i think this is what everyone wanted here, but the system can’t provide it, so they are resorting to this kind of hackery.

    • Wooster@startrek.websiteEnglish
      8·
      2 months ago

      Eeh.

      While I agree with the sentiment, I think we’re in this situation because of the current medical climate.

      • You call an ambulance? You get charged an arm and a leg.

      • You take yourself to the hospital, you get charged an arm and a leg.

      • You get medical insurance, and you’re somehow even further behind because it’s their priority to find reasons to deny having to give you money back,

      The current system does not work. As a consequence, people are attempting, however incompetently, to take their care into their own hands.

      Fix why folks are resorting to this, and this should stop being an issue, or at least stop gaining traction.

      • WindyRebel@lemmy.world
        41·
        2 months ago

        Agreed. I know why we’re in the situation. I’m just saying that sometimes it’s still not a good idea to just give anyone autonomy for something as a fix, especially when they do not specialize in it.

        • flicker@lemmy.world
          3·
          2 months ago

          Keep in mind that there are lots of people who know exactly what they need, but can’t afford it.

          The guy giving the presentation used the example of a pill that cures Hep C. They charge you $84,000 for the pills that will cure Hep C, but since there are cheaper meds that manage Hep C, insurance will cover only those.

          By the way, making those cure pills with this system costs about $70. For the entire course of the medication.

          The problem you’re talking about (see a professional to get a proper diagnosis and treatment!) is perfectly valid and wise. But if I try a migraine medication, and it works, but after the trial I have to pay hundreds of dollars a pill?

          Yo ho!

          • WindyRebel@lemmy.world
            2·
            2 months ago

            Totally agree! The drug companies are fucking scum bag shit lords. Hell, I used to work in preclinical pharma testing for 11 years at a Charles River Labs company so I know what goes into a lot of this.

            I just worry about someone then taking something else, or getting prescribed another med, without consulting a professional and there is a nasty interaction and now there’s an ER visit or flat out death. I don’t want people dying because they get complacent or make a mistake that could be avoided.

            The solution is really holding pharma to the coals, but I live in reality where it won’t happen. So here we are. 😢

    • Avenging5@sh.itjust.worksOP
      1·
      2 months ago

      he’s not attacking that part of medicine. he has no quarrel with Doctors etc. it’s the exhorbitent amount of money pharmcorp is charging for what can essentially be life saving medicine.