• Deceptichum@quokk.auOP
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      Fuck off, I’m capable of forming my own assessment of the country via their actions towards the citizens of Palestine.

      Israel clearly utilises terror as a political tool. Israel is a terrorist state.

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        You literally aren’t capable, because none of the information you’re getting is first hand, you don’t get to see the full scope of the situation, nor do you have the background or education to understand to interpret that data even if you had it.

        The people that do have those capabilities (namely the intelligence groups of the western governments we all live in) are still supporting Israel, although they’ve asked nicely for them to not be quite so open in murdering civilians if they can avoid it. Just like the US got asked nicely not to do the same thing when they invaded the middle east and killed a half million civilians.

        This is textbook Dunning Kruger on your part.

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          Go defend genocide elsewhere.

          No one is buying your garbage propaganda you’re spreading.

          And western intelligence blindly copies whatever Israel tells them to, we all saw they with the attacks on the UNRWA by Israel. Or the many other violent attacks on UN workers in Palestine by the terrorists in Israel.

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            Ah yes, all western intelligence agencies are dumber than you are.

            Definitely the rational argument right there.

            You don’t for one second think that the decisions they’re making are based on information they have access to that you do not?

            Why even bother having intelligence agencies if the public news just shows everyone everything they could ever need to know to be able to make decisions.

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              Dumb? No. Complacent. Yes.

              And they literally came out and said “We saw no information, just Israel’s word”

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                  You can play all the 5D conspiracies you want, that they secretly all knew but never showed any evidence.

                  Fact is countries have admitted they were never shown any evidence, it’s the main reason they ended up resuming funding the UNRWA.

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                    Fact is countries continued supporting Israel, knowing what was happening. They’re clearly getting something out of the situation if they’re willing to defy voters to keep funding it.

                    The geopolitical situation that civilians never really get to see is the most likely cause.

                    It’s not like Canada’s liberal government is just sitting there going, “man I love it when allies kill civilians, we should keep sending them money despite it costing us votes in the election”

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      Yea thought that sounded familiar.

      https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20210507-iran-s-khamenei-says-israel-not-a-country-but-a-terrorist-base

      Iran’s supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei on Friday called Israel “not a country, but a terrorist base” during a speech on Al-Quds Day, an annual show of solidarity with the Palestinians.

      Tensions have been running high between the two arch-foes following a series of maritime attacks, an explosion at an Iranian nuclear facility and the assassination of a top nuclear scientist that Tehran blamed on Israel.

      The Islamic republic does not recognise the Jewish state, and supporting the Palestinian cause, as well as armed groups such as Hamas and Lebanon’s Hezbollah, has been a pillar of Iran’s foreign policy since its 1979 revolution.

      “Israel is not a country, but a terrorist base against the nation of Palestine and other Muslim nations,” Khamenei said in live televised remarks.

      I’m not sure I’d listen to the Ayatollah.