At least 18 soldiers provided to Putin by Kim Jong Un were said to have abandoned their positions after arriving to the front, Ukrainian media reports.
I’m not sure I trust any of these claims. The sources are all Ukrainian which means they are highly likely to be war propaganda at worst and heavily biased at best. No matter what anyone’s preconceptions about North Korea or Russia may be, independent verification is needed to know if any this is true.
No, they’re pointing out the obvious. Newsweek isn’t what it used to be, and the claims are all sourced from Ukraine, with no external on the record confirmations, yet.
Ukrainian media has a moral obligation to service the propaganda needs of the war. That’s neither good, nor bad, that’s just a part of being in an existential war for survival. I don’t blame them for it, and I’m certainly not bashing them for, I’m just pointing out reality.
I can’t speak for the person you’re responding to, but I have no trouble understanding why North Korea would send thousands of support personnel to Ukraine as the logistical tail to support their weapons platforms. Western nations have been doing the same thing inside Ukraine.
Maybe the story is true, it’s possible. But I’m going to need to see better sources provided then a Kyiv Post article citing unnamed Western officials or Newsweek using Ukrainian articles as their source information.
That’s it. If anything, it’s more unreasonable to not be skeptical of early reports coming from any war zone, whether you want to believe them, or not.
The core of what they say is truthful, just like most propaganda. Why bother pointing it out? Why automatically doubt Ukraine, calling them very biased “at best”?
Because it’s designed to undermine Ukraine and support the Kremlin and Pyong Yang.
I can’t speak to that users motivations. I can only say that initial reporting out of any warzone should be viewed skeptically. I’ve already provided my rationale as to why, but ultimately, it’s a personal choice.
I’d rather file away first reports as unconfirmed rumors, or incomplete assessments, until I’ve seen additional reporting from other sources I trust.
Maybe that user really is what you said they are, or maybe they just suck at articulating the point that I was making. I don’t know.
Yeah no, there’s plenty of .ml users who have no idea of the political leanings of the server, I agree. Which is why I made it very clear I was kidding. I’m still keeping the instance blocked though.
I’m not sure I trust any of these claims. The sources are all Ukrainian which means they are highly likely to be war propaganda at worst and heavily biased at best. No matter what anyone’s preconceptions about North Korea or Russia may be, independent verification is needed to know if any this is true.
Lemmy.ml attacking the Kremlin’s enemies, what a surprise.
No, they’re pointing out the obvious. Newsweek isn’t what it used to be, and the claims are all sourced from Ukraine, with no external on the record confirmations, yet.
Ukrainian media has a moral obligation to service the propaganda needs of the war. That’s neither good, nor bad, that’s just a part of being in an existential war for survival. I don’t blame them for it, and I’m certainly not bashing them for, I’m just pointing out reality.
I can’t speak for the person you’re responding to, but I have no trouble understanding why North Korea would send thousands of support personnel to Ukraine as the logistical tail to support their weapons platforms. Western nations have been doing the same thing inside Ukraine.
Maybe the story is true, it’s possible. But I’m going to need to see better sources provided then a Kyiv Post article citing unnamed Western officials or Newsweek using Ukrainian articles as their source information.
That’s it. If anything, it’s more unreasonable to not be skeptical of early reports coming from any war zone, whether you want to believe them, or not.
The core of what they say is truthful, just like most propaganda. Why bother pointing it out? Why automatically doubt Ukraine, calling them very biased “at best”?
Because it’s designed to undermine Ukraine and support the Kremlin and Pyong Yang.
I can’t speak to that users motivations. I can only say that initial reporting out of any warzone should be viewed skeptically. I’ve already provided my rationale as to why, but ultimately, it’s a personal choice.
I’d rather file away first reports as unconfirmed rumors, or incomplete assessments, until I’ve seen additional reporting from other sources I trust.
Maybe that user really is what you said they are, or maybe they just suck at articulating the point that I was making. I don’t know.
At least what Ukraine is claiming is somewhat based in reality compared to what russia claims.
According to russian sources, russia has destroyed some vehicle and plane types in higher numbers than ukraine ever had, yet Ukraine still has some.
Weird how that works.
I don’t understand how anything I said inferred credibility unto Russian sources, much less Russian MOD claims on Ukrainian losses.
Can you reread my original comment, and then explain to me how anything I said, is directly related to anything you just said?
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Can I just downvote them anyway for being from .ml? (kidding)
My first account was on Lemmy.ml, because that was the main one recommended or showing up, during the first Reddit exodus.
I’ve encountered enough reasonable and well intentioned Lemmy.ml users to not assume the worst, even if I get where you’re coming from.
The same cannot be said for hexabear.
Yeah no, there’s plenty of .ml users who have no idea of the political leanings of the server, I agree. Which is why I made it very clear I was kidding. I’m still keeping the instance blocked though.