Loops by Pixelfed
loops.video
Loops, explore and share short videos on the fediverse. Available soon!
  • _NetNomad@fedia.io
    64·
    15 days ago

    i’m really interested to see where this goes. i feel like a lot of the dorks (i say affectionately as a dork) who use the fediverse and people who do this kinda shortform video are two circles that don’t touch, so this could very well die on the vine- no pun intended- or it could give the fedi the jolt it needs to enter the mainstream

    • UraniumBlazer@lemm.eeEnglish
      351·
      15 days ago

      I’m really skeptical of its success primarily due to the immense costs of hosting video. Peertube exists already, and isn’t nearly as successful as Mastodon/Lemmy primarily due to its hosting costs.

      • jeffhykin@lemm.eeEnglish
        9·
        15 days ago

        Yeah I wish there was a way to contribute to the hosting with torrent-like seeding. My phone can seed a torrent, but its not going to host an instance.

        1 like = seed for 1 month seems like an interesting model

        • UraniumBlazer@lemm.eeEnglish
          62·
          15 days ago

          Naah I thought about this before and came to the conclusion that this isn’t that bright of an idea. Here’s why.

          Why’s video hosting so expensive in the first place? Because it needs a lot of computational power, storage and bandwidth. All three things that a mobile phone does not have. If you make your client’s mobile phone do this stuff, then you’re going to slow down their phone, make it heat up more, make it degrade faster (because it would be drawing power from the battery) and take up a huge chunk of their bandwidth.

          Think of how video calls drain battery really fast. It’s just shifting the costs of hosting from the hosting side to the consumer side while making the entire operation a lot more complicated and a lot more inefficient.

          • Excrubulent@slrpnk.netEnglish
            4·
            15 days ago

            Take out the phone part and allow users to host videos in a decentralised way on their home computers and it’s a genuinely good idea though. I have a server running with plenty of storage and reasonable upload speed. I could easily dedicate a terabyte or so, as long as I’m not the sole hoster.

            It would be a hell of a lot cheaper than dedicated hosting. The only issue is legal problems when someone is unknowingly hosting abuse material, which is something that happens from time to time on all services like this, and an individual could be done for distribution without the protection big centralised services have. You’d just have to hope mods are on top of it.

            Actually something like a debrid service but for peertube might work. You can get huge amounts of storage for cheap because a lot of it is shared, you might ask them to host a huge torrent file, but most torrent files serve multiple users, so the cost is distributed. Peertube could work a similar way if it were more mainstream.

            • UraniumBlazer@lemm.eeEnglish
              13·
              15 days ago

              Sure! Remember though, that you are funding this project using your own money. How much does your server cost? How much does the electricity to run your server cost? You would need Gbps speed internet. How much does that cost?

              You would be funding this out of your own pocket. Thank you for doing that! Would there be a thousand more people willing to do this? What happens if you lose your job? What happens to the server?

              As you can see, this is not a technological issue, but a funding one. If you can generate funding for this somehow, you have a very viable model! IF you can find the funding.

              I am saying that funding this would be difficult. I see people just yapping about FOSS, but not funding it when the time comes.

              • Excrubulent@slrpnk.netEnglish
                31·
                15 days ago

                What are you talking about? I don’t think you understood the concept of decentralised torrent-like hosting.

                I’m currently talking to a peertube hoster about server costs, which I may be able to justify to host my own videos plus a little extra to pitch in for others who can’t justify the expense. Plenty of professional creators could easily justify it as an exit strategy or backup for youtube.

                These conversations are happening, just not with you, presumably because you’re just being negative about it and not actually doing something, so why would anyone bother to bring it up with you?

                • UraniumBlazer@lemm.eeEnglish
                  12·
                  15 days ago

                  Ok, good luck on your project. We’ll talk when any given peertube project (based on the donation based funding model alone) reaches break even.

                  I swear I’ve reviewed the finances about this a million times over. Funding models in their current form just don’t work. Content creators getting free hosting from YouTube with huge audiences are struggling to keep themselves afloat. But whatever, good luck on your project I suppose. We really need YouTube’s monopoly to end, so ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

    • Fitik@fedia.io
      16·
      15 days ago

      I use TikTok (around a hour a day) and use the Fediverse too(Mbin and Misskey fork), so I guess I am a target audience, so they do touch, pfft

      Also there’s Pixelfed userbase, I think they would like short form video platform, cause Instagram has it

      • Voltage@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        2·
        15 days ago

        A lot of people watch short form content but sets of people who make short form content and who use fediverse doesn’t overlap for sure.

    • OlPatchy2Eyes@slrpnk.netEnglish
      9·
      15 days ago

      I didn’t get on TikTok because I didn’t like the content, not because of the format. If folks make good videos on Loops then I’m down.

  • edric@lemm.eeEnglish
    36·
    15 days ago

    Storage costs is the biggest hurdle for decentralized video platforms. I wonder how instances will handle that.

  • e$tGyr#J2pqM8v@feddit.nlEnglish
    281·
    15 days ago

    shorts are not my cup of tea. Pretty sure shorts have a negative impact on peoples attention span. I’d still be happy to see people watch their shorts on the Fediverse rather than at tiktok/yt. Of course, but still…

    • Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.eeEnglish
      19·
      14 days ago

      Sorry I stopped reading your comment after four words. Could you condense it to a five second clip with another following on within a secon sorry I forgot what we were talking about

      • dumbass@leminal.spaceEnglish
        7·
        14 days ago

        *Rocket Racoon AI voice over old Minecraft footage*

        I dont like shorts

        bad attention span

        like no tik tok.

      • Classy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        3·
        14 days ago

        Sorry, I couldn’t follow your comment. Could you please interlay a second text in a different color that has poop jokes so I can have enough things to focus on? An injected mp4 of someone stapling sheet aluminum would help, too.

  • Daemon Silverstein@thelemmy.clubEnglish
    24·
    15 days ago

    Just a tip for the developer/sysadmins of loops.video, as a developer myself: Seems like loops.video has no DKIM or SPF configured (if that’s the domain being used to sent activation links/codes), so the tendency is for most email providers to block the mail or move it straight to Spam folder. The situation worsens when many users try to sign-up for an account, so loops.video sends a lot of sequential emails (which is something that could be seen as “spam behavior” by email providers). The developer should ensure that mail delivery is properly configured, particularly the trust headers (DKIM and SPF, as mentioned before) needed for sending emails.

  • dfyx@lemmy.helios42.deEnglish
    131·
    14 days ago

    Honestly, this whole thing is a mess… first a countdown, then a website with basically no information and that’s only the start.

    More than 24 hours after signing up, I finally got an email with just about zero information:

    Hi @dfyx,

    We’re thrilled to welcome you to Loops.video!

    We’re in the process of onboarding all our new users, and we can’t wait for you to experience the magic of short looping video.

    Keep an eye out for another email from us later tonight or tomorrow (depending on when you signed up). It will have all the details you need to get started, including how to create your first Loop.

    Welcome to the Loops community!

    Regards, The Loops Team

    And from some random comment that dansup made on pixelfed I found out that this beta is only for Android. Apparently, iOS will come later and there is no info on a browser-based version. That info should have been on the website. Also, what about selfhosting? This is the fediverse after all…

    • dfyx@lemmy.helios42.deEnglish
      10·
      15 days ago

      Kind of. All it shows for me is a registration form. When I submit it, they promise me to send an email with further instructions. So far, I didn’t get anything. Honestly, they wouldn’t have needed a countdown for that.