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    It’s legally theft. You can try as much mental gymnastics as you want to try and convince yourself you’re not breaking the law, but you are.

    It’s probably the most victimless theft that there is, but it’s still theft.

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      What’s legal is not necessarily what’s moral, and there’s nothing immoral about freely procuring an infinitely replicable digital product. If anything, it’s immoral to enclose upon them and charge rents for them. No better than landlords, the big streaming companies, save for the fact that entertainment isn’t vital for living.

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        There’s absolutely something immoral about stealing. If you don’t think there is then it just means your morals are out of whack.

        You think people renting out their property is immoral? Yeah nah, your opinion on this is wrong.

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          You think people renting out their property is immoral?

          Correct. All wealth is the product of labor, therefore rent and profit are theft, and workers taking back a bit of the wealth stolen from them is good.

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          Landlords are parasites that prey on the vulnerable and produce nothing of value. Corporations who own and profit from ”intellectual property” are no different.

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      I’m quite aware there’s some silly laws written by those same billionaire’s lobbies and passed by their politicians.

      Copying something is quite obviously not stealing from someone.

      But again, stealing back some of the wealth the billionaires have stolen from us is morally good. If you’re not stealing from them, you’re stealing from your family to support your family’s further deprivation.

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        It absolutely is stealing. You’re taking something that is not yours, something that someone else owns and charges money for.

        Mental gymnastics.

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          And did you at any point ask yourself why they own these things? Why Netflix the corporate entity owns media it did not produce while stiffing the people that did out of just compensation? Or how that information slightly complicates the otherwise simple nature of property and theft?

          The only mental gymnast here is you bud. The simple fact is, labor creates value, and Netflix has no part in that. I doubt they even put up any of their own capital in producing these shows.

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            Why they own these things? Because they paid for it.

            How are Netflix stiffing people out of compensation? Netflix pays the rights holders for the right to stream the content.

            On your last part you could not be more wrong. Netflix spent over $6 billion in 2021 on original content. Content they created. They pay for the streaming rights to everything that’s on Netflix up front - in 2021 they paid $11 billion to the rights holders of the content in order to stream it on their platform.

            You’re trying to justify theft. You’re the one doing the mental gymnastics.