• hoodatninja@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    You are attacking me personally when I am talking about how to best make a forum function. If you want to go that direction then I’m happy to just end the conversation man.

    The point is if downvotes are meant to tell us something meaningful or sort content in a way that we want, then it is currently not accomplishing these goals. Would you be happy with downvotes that strictly sort for you and are never visible to people? Because it’s the latter component that truly causes issues when engaging in discourse.

    If your objective is “I want to publicly express my displeasure as loudly and with as much impact as possible in an effort to sway public opinion” then great, the system works for you. But most people who care about dialogue and conversations not descending into flame wars constantly don’t want that.

    • WhoRoger@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Oh ffs, I wasn’t even talking about you specifically, the “you” was just generally addressing anyone, but yea I see it applies you completely.

      Don’t worry, I won’t bother you with my “attacks” any longer, in fact I’ll rather block you outright, because I can’t stand people like you who scream “attack” or other bullshit accusations whenever someone is just in their vicinity. So I’ll never reply to you ever again, win-win!

    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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      1 year ago

      I don’t see anything in the comment that I see as a personal attack. The person you replied to used “you,” but I think that was meant as a general “you” (i.e. other people reading this) rather than you specifically.

      I generally agree with you, but only for popular subs. In more niche communities, downvotes seem to do a better job of showing which posts are useful and which aren’t, but once you get enough people involved, it seems to devolve into a popularity contest.

      I would like to try something a bit different, more akin to what Twitter does. Basically, if a comment gets a ton of comments under it, it should be sorted more highly than one that doesn’t. Maybe that way we can eliminate votes entirely, or keep upvotes and downvotes as a form of agree/disagree but reduce their impact on sorting.

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      1 year ago

      While in very formal English “one” is the generic pronoun and “you” is addressed to you personally, in casual English “you” is the generic pronoun with the same meaning as formal written French “on”.

      So the post above wasn’t a personal attack. It used “you” to mean “one”.

      Read more here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_you

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          1 year ago

          I was trying to be charitable by assuming you badly misunderstood the comment because English was your second language. The alternatives are that you, in your own words, lack “the basic literacy of at least a second grader” or that you misread it on purpose to give yourself an excuse to pick a fight.

          Enjoy the fight that you sacrificed your own dignity to start.