• Sludgeyy@lemmy.world
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    21 hours ago

    Let’s say a bottle of Canadian Maple Syrup is $5 before.

    25% Tariff is $1.25

    Let’s say the company makes $2 on each bottle before tariff. They really need to make $2 per bottle to cover expenses

    So if a company still wants to make $2 a bottle still.

    If they sell for $6.25 to try to cover the tariff (25% increase)

    The tariff becomes $1.56

    Instead of making $5, they would make $4.69.

    Instead of $2, they would make $1.69

    If they sold the bottle for $5, paid $1.25 tariff

    They would make 75 cents

    The number for $5 is $6.67

    If the company sold the syrup bottle for $6.67. Payed $1.67 in tariff (25%). They would make $2.

    Now, of course, they want to sell it for $6.67. Will people pay the increased price?

    They can’t just keep selling them for $5 and make basically a 1/3 of their previous profit.

    Prices have to go up. How much is up to the consumer.

    If the consumer is willing to buy Official Canadian Maple Syrup 🍁 for $6.67. The consumer is paying the whole $1.67 tariff.

    An interesting thing happens when people pay $8. The syrup company makes an extra $1, Government gets $2 tariff. It’s a win for everyone, but the consumer that lost $3. (Kind of scary if Trump gets a Maple Syrup company in Canada, goes around, ignores, or pays himself the tariff and sells a bottle for $5. Both are true Canadian Maple Syrup, it just has his name on it. Are you going to buy the $5 or the $8? Even if you buy the $8, he gets $2)

    The consumer can’t win. Free economy is better.

    ~33% increase covers a 25% tariff

    If the price settles at $6.

    Company pays 50 cents

    Consumer pays $1

    Trump gets $1.50

    Who even is in charge of the “tariff funds”?

    Like people are happy with having to pay $1 to get the company to pay 50 cents? Like that’s a win?

    Sad reality is Americans should not buy anything with a tariff. Paying a premium to help support Canada seems like a good thing but if everyone does it and everyone pays 33% more. The tariff funds makes out like a bandit all thanks to the consumers.

    TL;DR: Company facing a 25% tariff will look to raise prices 33%. If they can they are fine or better. Consumers lose. I really like Vermont Maple Syrup

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      17 hours ago

      Would you mind changing “instead of making, they make” by some other precise verbs? Your explaination seems very interesting but, probably du to my poor english, I feel like you saying the same thing over and over while changing the numbers and I can’t grasp your explanation.

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        9 hours ago

        So if a company still wants to make $2 profit per bottle.

        Company raises price to $6.25 to try to cover the tariff (25% increase)

        The tariff becomes $1.56 ($6.25 × 25%)

        Instead of selling for $5 price, they would sell it for $4.69 effectively ($6.25-$1.56)

        Instead of making $2 profit, they would make $1.69 profit ($4.69-$3(production cost))

        If they still sold the bottle for $5, paid $1.25 tariff

        They would make 75 cents of profit ($5-$3(production cost)-$1.25(tariff))

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          9 hours ago

          I see. Since the tarif is proportionate to the final price, the final price needs even higher than the initial price times (1 + tarif) in order to keep the profit the same.

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            6 hours ago

            Starting Price / (1-Tariff %) = Final Price Needed to Break Even

            $5 / (1-.25) =

            5/.75 = $6.67

            If an item was $5 and there was a 30% tariff

            5 / (1-.30) = $7.14

            If there was a 30% tariff and the syrup company wanted to keep same profit they would have to sell each bottle for $7.14.

            $7.14 × .30 = $2.14

            $7.14 - $2.14 = $5

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            6 hours ago

            No, because (1 + tariff) isn’t enough to keep up with the tariff because as the price goes up, the tariff also goes up.

            Like in the example going from $5 to $6.25 (5 × (1+.25)). Would result in 31 cents less per bottle.

            It needs to be ~33% more or $6.67 for the syrup company to keep the same profit with a 25% tariff.

            Final Price × Tariff % = Tariff Amount

            Final Price - Tariff Amount = Cost of Good Sold

            Cost of Good Sold - Expenses = Profit

            So if you need $2 profit

            $2 = (Final Price - (Final Price × Tariff %)) - Expenses

            $2 = (X - (X×.25)) - $3

            $5 = X - .25X

            $5 = .75X

            X = $6.67

            Formula would be

            Profit = (Final Price - (Final Price × Tariff %)) - Expenses