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    2 days ago

    I don’t think that’s the argument being made. I can’t speak for OP but, Obama was objectively a mediocre president.

    He was a wall street loving centrist democratic politician.

    He campaigned on change and then he bailed out the big banks when the shit hit the fan. Sure, he had some redeeming policies. (ACA and such)

    However, this does not detract from the fact that he created no tangible change to the status quo. His shortcomings led directly to the rise of the same rightwing populism that’s decimating government institutions today.

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      In his very short time of having a power over the Congress he achieved something that nobody thought possible. Against the wishes and the will of majority of Americans he gave tens of millions of them an access to health care, an access that they weren’t able to get before, and will not be able to get after his legacy will be dismantled in a couple if months. It took all of his momentum, all the political power to do.
      For some reason you think that America is capable of some change to the better, but you people are so deep in the conservative mindset, it takes the best momentum of the century to achieve a singular good thing.
      And don’t blame it on Obama or Democratic party, like you love doing so much, you are in control of your country’s trajectory (well, until Trump will go full Putin on your ass). And you collectively chose whatever it is around you right now.

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        I gave him credit for the affordable care act in my previous comment. I weighed it against his other shortcomings.

        Still mediocre.

        Apparently I have a conservative mindset for thinking Obama could have done much more with the power he had.

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            I read the narrative you were trying to convey. He did a good thing giving protections against healthcare availability.

            Why does that remove him from mediocrity?

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              You certainly did not. I chose to assume you just aren’t paying attention enough, and just talk to whatever you think people are saying to you instead or actually reading the text. Otherwise that will mean the level of literacy we’re working with is below zero, and I refuse to assume that, because in this case what are we even doing here.

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                You said he “gave people access to healthcare” I agreed.

                What else is there to engage with in your comment?

                Assist me in understanding.

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                  Wait, seriously? Like, seriously, you’re not joking? You really can’t get the point from the original comment? You have read it and that was your understanding? Be honest, if not with me than with yourself, did you really read it, or just pretended to read and now digging your heels?