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  • NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ@lemmy.world
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    18 hours ago

    Isn’t this just class infighting though, something completely against the benefit of the workers so the owners can continue to pick our pockets while we aren’t looking?

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      18 hours ago

      It’s never class infighting when you are attacking class traitors. They are free, of course, to stop being class traitors.

      Same logic applies to cops.

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          16 hours ago

          It’s not like we’re accusing them of planning it.

          But the bottom line is the owner of the company they are supporting is a NAZI who bought a presidency and is deconstructing our government and illegally firing thousands of Americans.

          If you continue to drive/buy Teslas, you are supporting that Nazi and empowering him to do more damage to our country.

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          18 hours ago

          If they are still driving a luxury car made by Nazis, to promote Nazism, even when it becomes very obvious a nazi symbol… Yes, they are.

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            16 hours ago

            First, Teslas are not luxury cars, haha. You could buy one for $35,000 USD right now, and their build quality is significantly subpar of luxury.

            To the main point - look, I get it, the CEO is a Nazi and fuck anyone who buys or bought a Tesla recently, but punishing a working class citizen with a 5 year old car and telling them they need to take a loss and cough up for a new vehicle is extremely stupid and naive.

            I sure hope you dont own a Volkswagen, as it’s a symbol of Nazism.

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              12 hours ago

              Luxury doesn’t imply quality. Plenty of luxury items are worthless trash, and it’s pretty clear that a main reason for their price dive is to do with context more than the product.

              but punishing a working class citizen with a 5 year old car

              Is this something that is actually happening? Or is this a hypothetical edge case that assumes anti-Tesla activists are ignorant?

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                11 hours ago

                Is this something that is actually happening? Or is this a hypothetical edge case that assumes anti-Tesla activists are ignorant?

                The post you are literally in is discussing a dark-web site that is publishing the names and addresses of all of the people currently own Teslas. This is not hypothetical.

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                  There’s a big leap between a website publishing Tesla owners’ information and assuming that people with older cars are included (in fact, I only found Tesla dealerships and DOGE employees from a quick look around), and from there assuming any activists using that information are being uncritical and just attacking any car they see. Even in this post there are people explaining how to identify older models.

                  I’ve seen plenty of articles and social media footage of Tesla cars being sprayed, burned and smashed and all of them I’ve seen were cybertrucks and dealership lot cars.

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              16 hours ago

              Is the current execs of Volkswagem supporting a neonazi, right now?

              No.

              I still don’t own one, however.

              And yes, I get it. Sometimes it is an inconvenience to oppose fascism. Wah.

              And 5 years ago, Musk was still a shitstain, so even that excuse is flimsy as fuck.

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      18 hours ago

      Not when that part of the class is determined to ruin everyone else in the class. Nazi’s aren’t a part of the community.

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            15 hours ago

            Because everyone is rich like you and can afford to just buy a new car because some CEO revealed himself to be an evil cunt. You are so out of touch it hurts my head. If folks like you are the majority of the people on the anti-musk side we are so very destined to lose this war. So discouraging, ugh. We have no chance at all with that mindset.

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              14 hours ago

              Because everyone is rich like you and can afford to just buy a new car because some CEO revealed himself to be an evil cunt.

              Lol. Buddy, I can’t even afford a Tesla. And yes, if by owning a specific vehicle I was supporting a FUCKING NAZI who bought a presidency and was deconstructing the democracy I live in and firing my fucking friends from their federal jobs, you better bet your ass I’d do something about it. Like selling that fucking car and getting another one.

              Sometimes you have to grow a pair of balls and do the right thing, even if it inconveniences you. And no one who owns a Tesla is in a position to be massively inconvenienced by getting rid of it.

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          16 hours ago

          Not sure if you noticed, but it’s 2025, not 1938. Yeah, Volkswagon fucked up by supporting Nazis almost a century ago. The Tesla thing is happening NOW. Volkswagon is not the same company it was almost a century ago, just like I’m sure Tesla won’t be the same company almost a century from now, when the fucking Nazi that runs it is dead. Volkswagon is also highly responsible for the much, much safer 3-point seatbelt being standardized. So they’ve made positive contributions.

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            16 hours ago

            It’s not moronic, you are literally suggesting burning random people’s cars because the manufacturer is a nazi. I pointed out another example of such a manufacturer, and you have a problem with it.

            Or if you want to be like that, how about just all classical voltswagons.

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              16 hours ago

              It’s not moronic

              It is, because the arrow of time moves forward and you’re talking about a company a century ago vs. now as if literally nothing has changed about that company or the rest of the world around it in that time.

              If it was 1938 right now, I’d be advocating burning the fuck out of Volkswagons. It makes literally no sense to do that now.

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                16 hours ago

                You’re arguing with someone too dumb to realize the 1930’s and 2020’s are two different time periods with entirely different sets of human beings.

                Their argument is the definition of dogshit.

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      16 hours ago

      Isn’t this just class infighting though

      Nah. It’s trying to affect the bottom line of an extremely wealthy person who uses his wealth to the detriment of average Americans. Limit the wealth. Limit the amount of damage he can do. Or, we could do nothing to his bottom line and he can become even more wealthy and do even more than buy a presidency and deconstruct our government, illegally laying off thousands of federal workers.

      Also, I can’t afford a Tesla. So I’m not even sure if I consider Tesla owners to be of the same class as I am.

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        15 hours ago

        You do know he already got paid for those so you are not impacting anything except some rando innocent person who now will actively hate your cause and move further towards the fascist side? Or maybe you don’t. Know it or not burning peoples Tesla’s is one of the absolute worst and stupidest moves someone can do if they actually want things to change. That just adds one more them to the “us vrs them”.

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          9 hours ago

          The damage done to the Teslas costs insurance companies money. Insurance companies hate paying for stuff, so if this is sustained, insurance rates for Teslas will increase. That combined with dealing with the vandalism itself gives customers a reason not to use a Tesla, which means car dealerships and rentals will sell less, who will then purchase less ultimately losing Tesla money. People who buy expensive cars from fascists who are actively controlling our government aren’t innocent, and IMO the people vandalizing Teslas are doing more for society than the peaceful parades and book clubs are since it actually costs them something.

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          14 hours ago

          Personally, I think people that own them should dump them, flood the market with used Swasticars nobody wants to be associated with. However, direct action does seem to be having an impact.

          I suspect anyone the victim of this type of crime will think twice about buying another.