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Summary
Russia was excluded from Trump’s sweeping tariff list due to existing U.S. sanctions that limit trade, White House officials claimed.
Despite lower trade volumes, countries like Syria were still included, prompting skepticism.
Trump has prioritized ending the war in Ukraine and threatened 50% tariffs on nations buying Russian oil. Russian state media framed the omission as sanctions-based, not favoritism, with some mocking Trump’s harsher stance on allies.
Ukraine, meanwhile, faces a 10% tariff despite the country’s strategic partnership with the U.S.
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Uninhabited islands: tariffs
Allies: tariffs
Israel: believe it or not, tariffs
Russia: crickets
Strange, what reason did the USA give for economically attacking all of their trading partners except Russia and Russia’s close allies?
Following Trump’s Rose Garden announcement, a White House official told NOTUS’ Jasmine Wright that Russia is “not on this list because sanctions from the Ukraine war have already rendered trade between the two countries as zero.” Obviously I think this is bullshit, but that’s the rationale.
Our trade with the penguins were also zero. We terriffed the penguins anyway!
Who cares, its just lies anyway.
He certainly isn’t trying to beat those “Russian asset” allegations is he?
What? Comrade Krasnov? A Russian asset? Never!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_and_Ethel_Rosenberg
Julius Rosenberg (May 12, 1918 – June 19, 1953) and Ethel Rosenberg (née Greenglass; September 28, 1915 – June 19, 1953) were an American married couple who were convicted of spying for the Soviet Union, including providing top-secret information about American radar, sonar, jet propulsion engines, and nuclear weapon designs. Convicted of espionage in 1951, they were executed by the federal government of the United States in 1953 using New York’s state execution chamber in Sing Sing in Ossining,[1] New York
America used to have standards.
Funny you bring up that couple, because the lack of standards has a through line here.
A man named Roy Cohn was the prosecutor, and he wheeled and dealed to make sure that both Rosenbergs got the death penalty, even if the evidence was a bit weak, especially the evidence against Ethel. Cohn got witnesses to change their story so that he could push to kill Ethel.
Cohn then went on to help Joseph McCarthy run the Red, and Lavender Scares.
And then, later still, Roy Cohn would tutor Donald Trump in the art of personally attacking anyone who tried to enforce the law against him.
The piece of shit finally died of HIV,
TIL, thank you
And a whole nation’s gotta take it in the behind for this. Classic king of the hill stuff.
The island populated by penguins has to pay tariffs but not Russia. Ok
But uninhabited islands are
It wasn’t because of sanctions or not doing any trade with Russia, this bears repeating from the article:
However, nations with even less trade with the US - such as Syria, which exported $11m of products last year according to UN data quoted by Trading Economics - were on the list.
According to the Office of the US Trade Representative, the US imported goods from Russia worth $3.5bn (£2.7bn) in 2024. It mainly consisted of fertilisers, nuclear fuel and some metals, according to Trading Economics and Russian media.
If I’m a politician and I’m putting tariffs in place, the one place getting annihilated by a 1,000% tariff is the place I’ve already sanctioned into the ground. Is that performative? Maybe. Would it prevent headlines like this? Yep.
Makes you wonder what’s going on in the swamp.
All that time and money invested in agent Krasnov is really paying off.
Trump is a Russian loving traitor.
sanctions limits trade? but countries with hardly any trade with US are getting tariffs.
Lesotho - 50%, Saint Pierre & Miquelon - 50%.
But seriously, American consumers should say bye bye to cheap clothes, etc. as everything there is about to get a lot more expensive. The reality is that America was prospering in parts to all those third world countries. And it is kind of stupid to think that you can replace their products with local manufacturing as you lack both the skill set on the local work force nor the salary levels.
They also kicked all their immigrants who were working those shitty low paid jobs and I am sure as hell those employers are now struggling big time to find other people willing to do the same for the same pay.
Interesting to see what would happen. Prices of goods in US will go up due to tariffs, similar locally made good will be expensive too due to local cost of manufacturing, labor.
Meanwhile consumer in the rest of the world are enjoying life buying cheap clothes and electronics made in SEA, China, s.america and etc.
Read all about it in this month’s riveting issue of Duh.
Cuba, Belarus and North Korea were also not included
At least they’re being consistent. If Biden had excluded Russia along with those countries from some global economic policy, I wouldn’t be suspicious.
It’s probably dumber than you think why they weren’t on there. The formula they used to come up with the countries tarrifs rate is based simply on trade deficit calculations. So if you aren’t exporting/importing from those countries they wouldn’t be included. It doesn’t even matter if there was a trade surplus.
For example, take the figures for China:
- Goods trade deficit: $291.9bn
- Total goods imports: $438.9bn
- 291.9/438.9 = 0.67, or 67%
- And halved = 34%
Sources:
https://www.ft.com/content/e025d7e6-512d-4e82-9c25-7900b94ac153
This can’t explain the exclusion of Russia, since the entirely uninhabited Heard and McDonald Islands got their own entry on the list. There cannot be a trade balance with a place where nobody lives. The islands got the “base rate” of 10%, so for Russia to have been excluded there has to have been another reason
Honestly they probably plugged it into Grok and asked it to spit out the list of countries to tariff.
I don’t see how that’s related to excluding particular countries.
Edit: What I mean is that I don’t understand how you conclude
So if you aren’t exporting/importing from those countries they wouldn’t be included. It doesn’t even matter if there was a trade surplus.
based on the formula.
Yeah, sanctioned countries didn’t make the list. It’s that simple.
Did Somalia make the list either? No. Same reason.
Yeah, sanctioned countries didn’t make the list.
Iran and Syria made the list.
Yeah, and these people are idiots that can’t do anything right. There’s as many sanctioned countries accidentally included as there are islands inhabited entirely by penguins.
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“What? That can’t be so…”
You know what other place has limited trace but still got hit with tariffs? Heard Island and Mcdonald Island since they are uninhabited.
Shocked I say. Shocked that Putin’s puppet is not putting Tariffs on someone that is trying to take over another country.
FFS people, sanctioned countries were not included. Somalia, Burkina Faso…also not included.
Let them deal in baseless conspiracy. Please deal in fact here.
However, nations with even less trade with the US - such as Syria, which exported $11m of products last year according to UN data quoted by Trading Economics - were on the list.
According to the Office of the US Trade Representative, the US imported goods from Russia worth $3.5bn (£2.7bn) in 2024. It mainly consisted of fertilisers, nuclear fuel and some metals, according to Trading Economics and Russian media.
Yep, it’s fertilizer and related exempt at inputs. Prior to the war trade with Russian was closer to $30B.
The trade sanctions exist outside of tariff policy, so it’s probably too complicated for ChatGPT (and therefore these clowns) to sort out easily.
Let them deal in baseless conspiracy
so it’s probably too complicated for ChatGPT
There’s a possibility that someone used an LLM to formulate the tariff percentages. That’s not baseless, there’s evidence based on replication and similar language in the USTR site.
Which makes it a funny joke to suggest that they did the entire tariff plan top to bottom in ChatGPT.
There’s also a much stronger possibility that Trump simply didn’t want to piss off Putin.
Why are you trying to find a more complicated answer?
Less complicated is:
“Tariff rates go brrrrrr”
“But it’s hard to add this to sanctioned countries because it involves doing work.”
'Then don’t, lol, FTW. Tell Grok to leave them out."
Grok and all appointees involved are idiots
“Here’s a list of important places that need tariffs.”
And you’re back to the “list was generated by AI” conspiracy.
Maybe the fertilizer president wants freedom of fertilizer?
President Biden also took a lot of flack from Europe when he maintained trade in Russian uranium despite their putting rules into effect concerning Russian oil. There are a few things that both parties aren’t willing to give us regarding Russia.
FFS people, sanctioned countries were not included
Iran and Syria were included.
And so were uninhabited islands. I’m not saying these people are geniuses. I’m saying that Grok probably said to skip sanctioned countries and they got that mostly right.
Or, much more simply, Trump didn’t want to make Putin mad.
So then why did Somalia or Burkina Faso not make the list? Does Putin care about them? Not really.
Occam’s razor here is pretty easy to see as “Sanctioned counties, and we missed two.”
That wasn’t a comprehensive list, just 2 off the jump.
So no, the simpler answer is that sanctions simply aren’t a factor. They didn’t list every country on the planet.
Sure, whatever you need to believe with no evidence to support it. At least a 80% correlation with the sanctions list mes a touch of sense.
Claiming that Trump is constantly kissing Putin’s ass isn’t a conspiracy. It’s not even a secret…
Sure, whatever you need to believe with no evidence to support it
So where’s your evidence that the list of countries was generated by AI?
Why? Isn’t that the easiest lowest hanging fruit possible?
