These are all arguments to convince someone without empathy to accidentally do the right thing.
Well thats the thing, fiscal conservatism is effectively the trolley problem zoomed out to the size of an entire country.
At its core, we dont have infinite money and it is a zero sum game.
Fiscal Conservativism should be the process of balancing out to figure out “we only have finite money, how do we maximize our yield spending it to save as many people as possible”
So, yes, you have to discard emotion and indeed accept that you just cant save everyone. There’s starving kids in africa and etc etc, you don’t have infinite money and cant save em all.
So you gotta assess which investments give you the best bang for your buck, and theres tonnes of really really good ones that for very little money produce extremely good yields on people saved per dollar.
If you’re truly conservative then you’d also support a deregulated free market that allows extreme wealth disparity.
Only a short sighted conservative believes that. Once you zoom out you have to accept the market simply cannot be unregulated, it always naturally becomes regulated.
The question is, who gets to regulate it. Do you want to place protections now to prevent bad actors from gaining control, or plug your ears and pretend it’ll never happen.
Captured markets are largely inevitable, all you can do is put protections in place to slow it down for as many decades as possible.
That’s still just fiscal responsibility (which also gets used as a code phrase, but that’s hard to escape entirely). Given that “fiscal conservative” is an established term widely understood to represent a certain specific set of beliefs and principles, I don’t know why you’d want to identify with that term based on something else that only matches the general, apolitical meaning of the label and in an incredibly generic manner that offers no real distinction from anything else.
It kind of plays right into the the doublespeak that right-leaning movements love so much – and this is exactly why they do. It’s to trick people into believing they are aligned and and then represent that alignment to others. You make them look good.
Before going too far down a moralizing path, I think it’s also worth pointing out that empathy is an individually developed skill, but one whose value is ultimately based on higher order reasoning and rooted in amoral pragmatism/evolutionary biology. It is not actually an ability to distinguish good from bad.
Empathy and selfishness could be considered contrasting drives, and the former is more valuable than the latter only in so far as it involves broader understanding and perspective. Both are ultimately emotional biases. Just like selfish people are liable to justify exploiting others, empathetic people are liable to justify unfair or even destructive levels of self-sacrifice.
So there’s no moral distinction between being “tricked” into accidentally doing the right social thing and having empathy that helps find the same answer independently. Empathy can as easily be tricked into causing great harm through short-sightedness or failure to recognize the true cost of alleviating whatever pain is currently perceived.
For example: is adopting a large volume of war refugees the good action if it leads to public backlash that ultimately brings fascism to power and then starts a bigger war? It looks like that’s a consequence we’re only going to avert narrowly and by a considerable amount of luck. So far I’m still glad we did – but boy are we cutting it close. (And to be clear I realize that for the sake of my point I’m simplifying away other factors that could have reduced the political cost and had more to do with selfishness than empathy.)
Well thats the thing, fiscal conservatism is effectively the trolley problem zoomed out to the size of an entire country.
At its core, we dont have infinite money and it is a zero sum game.
Fiscal Conservativism should be the process of balancing out to figure out “we only have finite money, how do we maximize our yield spending it to save as many people as possible”
So, yes, you have to discard emotion and indeed accept that you just cant save everyone. There’s starving kids in africa and etc etc, you don’t have infinite money and cant save em all.
So you gotta assess which investments give you the best bang for your buck, and theres tonnes of really really good ones that for very little money produce extremely good yields on people saved per dollar.
Only a short sighted conservative believes that. Once you zoom out you have to accept the market simply cannot be unregulated, it always naturally becomes regulated.
The question is, who gets to regulate it. Do you want to place protections now to prevent bad actors from gaining control, or plug your ears and pretend it’ll never happen.
Captured markets are largely inevitable, all you can do is put protections in place to slow it down for as many decades as possible.
That’s still just fiscal responsibility (which also gets used as a code phrase, but that’s hard to escape entirely). Given that “fiscal conservative” is an established term widely understood to represent a certain specific set of beliefs and principles, I don’t know why you’d want to identify with that term based on something else that only matches the general, apolitical meaning of the label and in an incredibly generic manner that offers no real distinction from anything else.
It kind of plays right into the the doublespeak that right-leaning movements love so much – and this is exactly why they do. It’s to trick people into believing they are aligned and and then represent that alignment to others. You make them look good.
Before going too far down a moralizing path, I think it’s also worth pointing out that empathy is an individually developed skill, but one whose value is ultimately based on higher order reasoning and rooted in amoral pragmatism/evolutionary biology. It is not actually an ability to distinguish good from bad.
Empathy and selfishness could be considered contrasting drives, and the former is more valuable than the latter only in so far as it involves broader understanding and perspective. Both are ultimately emotional biases. Just like selfish people are liable to justify exploiting others, empathetic people are liable to justify unfair or even destructive levels of self-sacrifice.
So there’s no moral distinction between being “tricked” into accidentally doing the
rightsocial thing and having empathy that helps find the same answer independently. Empathy can as easily be tricked into causing great harm through short-sightedness or failure to recognize the true cost of alleviating whatever pain is currently perceived.For example: is adopting a large volume of war refugees the good action if it leads to public backlash that ultimately brings fascism to power and then starts a bigger war? It looks like that’s a consequence we’re only going to avert narrowly and by a considerable amount of luck. So far I’m still glad we did – but boy are we cutting it close. (And to be clear I realize that for the sake of my point I’m simplifying away other factors that could have reduced the political cost and had more to do with selfishness than empathy.)