It’s much easier to do a clean install of Windows than it is for Linux, and the installer pretty much requires no configuration.
Bullshit. Putting an installer medium in and booting into the preconfigured Windows system is not the install process. The actual install process starts after that, when you have to disable / purge all the crapware and unnecessary services to get a somewhat usable system.
The hardest part of a Linux installation is to choose a distro, and set up a bootable USB stick while still on a windows system. After that it’s
boot into live CD
click the install button
select a keyboard layout
let it auto-partition, because you’re a first time user
let it detect your network (wifi can be a bit tricky depending on chipset, admitted)
choose a computer name, root password (if any) and a main (first) user
complete installation & wait for 5-15 minutes. Done - you now have a working system
Now for Windows, you still don’t have any useful software. Whereas on Linux you just select whatever you need from the package manager.
Also, when is the last time you actually set up a Windows from scratch? The main reason people think it’s easier, is because they use OEM versions and never actually install anything.
Now for Windows, you still don’t have any useful software. Whereas on Linux you just select whatever you need from the package manager.
There it is, this sums it up perfectly.
The OS is fine, it’s just not what you want. There are plenty of perfectly useable pre loaded media capable programs on install, it’s just not what snobs like you consider “good enough” so you claim that it literally doesn’t exist when it does by defining it as “useful” so you can get away with your misdirection.
I’ve installed windows from scratch on half a dozen machines over the last couple years for personal use/friends and that’s not even counting supporting it at work occasionally even though it’s not really my department. Never had an issue with the install or the post configuration. You can’t even be bothered to give an objective analysis, trying to compare the two then classifying the removal of software you personally don’t want as “part of the install.” Lol
I love Linux and run multiple installs from Arch to Debian and Fedora but Windows is fine for most use cases and this pissy middle school behavior fron Linux elitists where you pretend everything that isn’t a “0.5GB RAM at idle” Arch install is a steaming pile of shit is just ridiculous.
My opinion has nothing to do with “elitism” and everything with usability. Windows used to be a decent OS until Windows 2000. XP was already phoning home, but the user experience was still “okayish”. Windows 7 was only usable when you disabled all the UI bullshit and went as far towards XP looks as possible. Anything Windows beyond that is just shitting in your face “fuck you user, we’re laughing our asses off that you are so stupid to still give us money”.
There’s nothing from Microsoft that makes your life easier than it used to be. MS Office peaked at Office XP, beyond that, usability has been discarded. I discarded Windows not out of principle, but because it was killing my productivity in every way possible. And that was before even considering that you have zero control over your data or privacy.
I did a clean install of Windows last week. It took 20 minutes start to finish, including reinstalling all my software manually.
To do a clean install of Windows you just have to click the mouse a few times. To do a clean install of Linux you have to do things no average user is reasonably going to do.
If you’re going to argue the superiority of an operating system, you should at least know what you’re talking about instead of parroting ‘hur dur windows bad.’
Bullshit. Putting an installer medium in and booting into the preconfigured Windows system is not the install process. The actual install process starts after that, when you have to disable / purge all the crapware and unnecessary services to get a somewhat usable system.
The hardest part of a Linux installation is to choose a distro, and set up a bootable USB stick while still on a windows system. After that it’s
Now for Windows, you still don’t have any useful software. Whereas on Linux you just select whatever you need from the package manager.
Also, when is the last time you actually set up a Windows from scratch? The main reason people think it’s easier, is because they use OEM versions and never actually install anything.
There it is, this sums it up perfectly.
The OS is fine, it’s just not what you want. There are plenty of perfectly useable pre loaded media capable programs on install, it’s just not what snobs like you consider “good enough” so you claim that it literally doesn’t exist when it does by defining it as “useful” so you can get away with your misdirection.
I’ve installed windows from scratch on half a dozen machines over the last couple years for personal use/friends and that’s not even counting supporting it at work occasionally even though it’s not really my department. Never had an issue with the install or the post configuration. You can’t even be bothered to give an objective analysis, trying to compare the two then classifying the removal of software you personally don’t want as “part of the install.” Lol
I love Linux and run multiple installs from Arch to Debian and Fedora but Windows is fine for most use cases and this pissy middle school behavior fron Linux elitists where you pretend everything that isn’t a “0.5GB RAM at idle” Arch install is a steaming pile of shit is just ridiculous.
My opinion has nothing to do with “elitism” and everything with usability. Windows used to be a decent OS until Windows 2000. XP was already phoning home, but the user experience was still “okayish”. Windows 7 was only usable when you disabled all the UI bullshit and went as far towards XP looks as possible. Anything Windows beyond that is just shitting in your face “fuck you user, we’re laughing our asses off that you are so stupid to still give us money”.
There’s nothing from Microsoft that makes your life easier than it used to be. MS Office peaked at Office XP, beyond that, usability has been discarded. I discarded Windows not out of principle, but because it was killing my productivity in every way possible. And that was before even considering that you have zero control over your data or privacy.
I did a clean install of Windows last week. It took 20 minutes start to finish, including reinstalling all my software manually.
To do a clean install of Windows you just have to click the mouse a few times. To do a clean install of Linux you have to do things no average user is reasonably going to do.
If you’re going to argue the superiority of an operating system, you should at least know what you’re talking about instead of parroting ‘hur dur windows bad.’
Tell me you have not read my comment without telling me you have read my comment.