British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak is considering introducing measures that would ban the next generation from ever being able to buy cigarettes, The Guardian reported on Friday, citing government sources.
Ex-smoker but American, I would not be opposed to that here. As long as vaping and other “safer” alternatives are still available. People should have the freedom to use nicotine if they please, but cigarettes need to go. They are so goddamn terrible for you, and there are better tasting alternatives. The juice just isn’t worth the squeeze. Well, the vape juice is… Whatever
If I want to smoke cigarettes you not liking them shouldn’t get in the way of that. Some of us don’t see a long term future in this shit world. A smoke is five minutes of peace. All substances should be legal and regulated.
Cigarettes make you and everything around you smell like shit. Second hand smoke is fuckin TERRIBLE. You want to be Mr. Fight Club nihilist that’s fine, but I shouldn’t have to breathe your cancerous bullshit. You are free to die on your own terms, you are not free to kill/hurt others to feel like Coolguy McAntiauthority. Waddle on back to yer nest, Pancho.
Vapes bug me more than smoke does. Only because I know that if I’m smelling that sickly sweet moist cloud, it’s only because it’s been ejected from someone’s lungs. That makes me mire uncomfortable than smelling tobacco smoke off a cigarette or cigar (as well as smoke exhaled).
Who shit in your cereal, asshole? I vape if I’m out and about, because I’m not an asshole and realize others don’t want to smell cigarettes. Nothing I said indicated I’m out smoking amongst people, I simply said if I choose to smoke, your moral panic shouldn’t step on that, because it doesn’t fucking affect you when I smoke in my car or on my porch with some coffee or a beer. I smoke cigarettes infrequently.
And no, I don’t toss my butts everywhere either. Eat me. I’m free to hurt myself and mind my own business, like you should.
I get that. I use a nicotine salt vape out and about that puts out a minimal amount of vapor to mitigate that. Sorry to hear that. I really do try to be courteous though I get plenty of people don’t give a fuck.
To be honest, I wfh, and I pretty much only go out to go to the grocery.
I have been around smokers all my days. Hell would even go out with fhe smoker in our group if they went outside to continue the conversation. I don’t know what it is about those particular vape liquids could be a particular chemical or just hitting the back of my throat with such a pungent smell just right.
I’m more or less fine with the asthma having it 40 yrs at this point. Although I just got my arse kicked at my annual check for not using my reliever as much as I should.
In terms of op I don’t hate this. It doesn’t affect those legally smoking now unlike when the Scottish government raised it to 18 from 16 making something addictive and legal for some to addictive and illegal. That shit was just cruel
1 is preventative and usually a steroid of some sort. the other is as needed like you describe that’s the releaver.
Unless the attack was bad enough that it was a fight to breath I’d just stop what i was doing and focus on my breathing till It passed. This was bad I have been told.
As for the ban who can say most of the sales here are packs rather than lose tobacco fir rolling. Eventually it will get unprofitable for the tobacco companies to sell here.
Tbh until the introduction of vaping there had been a downward trend in smoking numbers all my days.
100% agree, tbh most countries dont know how to handle drugs…look at Portugal for a good example on how to do it.
Either way yes we should let people decide what they do with their lives. We don’t need no one banning bleach cuz a bunch of people decided to drink it too. We didn’t need them around either way.
Yeah no nicotine needs to go too. You shouldn’t be allowed to sell a product that is pretty much guaranteed to make you an addict for the rest of your days. And that’s pretty much what the e-cigs makers have been doing, targeting younger customers to ensure they never run out of addicts even after old fashioned tobacco smokers are gone.
The only benefit of nicotine is to relieve nicotine withdrawal symptoms. Vape nicotine-free juice if you enjoy it, but nicotine itself should only be sold in pharmacies to people who are already hooked.
Ex-smoker but American, I would not be opposed to that here. As long as vaping and other “safer” alternatives are still available. People should have the freedom to use nicotine if they please, but cigarettes need to go. They are so goddamn terrible for you, and there are better tasting alternatives. The juice just isn’t worth the squeeze. Well, the vape juice is… Whatever
What you said. Exactly.
If I want to smoke cigarettes you not liking them shouldn’t get in the way of that. Some of us don’t see a long term future in this shit world. A smoke is five minutes of peace. All substances should be legal and regulated.
Cigarettes make you and everything around you smell like shit. Second hand smoke is fuckin TERRIBLE. You want to be Mr. Fight Club nihilist that’s fine, but I shouldn’t have to breathe your cancerous bullshit. You are free to die on your own terms, you are not free to kill/hurt others to feel like Coolguy McAntiauthority. Waddle on back to yer nest, Pancho.
Too edgy for me.
Vapes bug me more than smoke does. Only because I know that if I’m smelling that sickly sweet moist cloud, it’s only because it’s been ejected from someone’s lungs. That makes me mire uncomfortable than smelling tobacco smoke off a cigarette or cigar (as well as smoke exhaled).
Because I’m weird.
Who shit in your cereal, asshole? I vape if I’m out and about, because I’m not an asshole and realize others don’t want to smell cigarettes. Nothing I said indicated I’m out smoking amongst people, I simply said if I choose to smoke, your moral panic shouldn’t step on that, because it doesn’t fucking affect you when I smoke in my car or on my porch with some coffee or a beer. I smoke cigarettes infrequently.
And no, I don’t toss my butts everywhere either. Eat me. I’m free to hurt myself and mind my own business, like you should.
Can I let you in on a little secret. Its still very smellable.
The sweet flavours on the vape juice even more so. Some go so far as to trigger my asthma 😕.
More so than regular cigs but that could because growing up my patents between them smoked around 80 a day and just had to get used to it.
I get that. I use a nicotine salt vape out and about that puts out a minimal amount of vapor to mitigate that. Sorry to hear that. I really do try to be courteous though I get plenty of people don’t give a fuck.
To be honest, I wfh, and I pretty much only go out to go to the grocery.
Best of luck on the asthma
I have been around smokers all my days. Hell would even go out with fhe smoker in our group if they went outside to continue the conversation. I don’t know what it is about those particular vape liquids could be a particular chemical or just hitting the back of my throat with such a pungent smell just right.
I’m more or less fine with the asthma having it 40 yrs at this point. Although I just got my arse kicked at my annual check for not using my reliever as much as I should.
In terms of op I don’t hate this. It doesn’t affect those legally smoking now unlike when the Scottish government raised it to 18 from 16 making something addictive and legal for some to addictive and illegal. That shit was just cruel
There’s only actually a couple flavors I’ve found over the years that I’ve been able to tolerate honestly. A lot of them just taste straight chemical.
I assume you mean inhaler? I was under the impression those were just as needed… I had asthma as a kid but I grew out of it luckily.
But how is a ban really going to help? When has prohibition of mentally altering substances actually worked?
There’s 2 types of inhaler
1 is preventative and usually a steroid of some sort. the other is as needed like you describe that’s the releaver.
Unless the attack was bad enough that it was a fight to breath I’d just stop what i was doing and focus on my breathing till It passed. This was bad I have been told.
As for the ban who can say most of the sales here are packs rather than lose tobacco fir rolling. Eventually it will get unprofitable for the tobacco companies to sell here.
Tbh until the introduction of vaping there had been a downward trend in smoking numbers all my days.
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It’s not water vapor just fyi
Pg/vg themselves are what you’re vaporizing.
Wow your touchy
I specifically mentioned the sweet smelling crap and yes I mean outside.
So unless you are my doctor with I timate knowledge of my case kindly wind your kneck in.
To give you an idea how trigger happy mine is simple morning fog is enough to set it off
BTW like you I smoked till about 15 yrs ago. Getting off them was the hardest thing i did and drove my asthma nuts more than staying on.
The asthma clinic advised me this is fairly common as the junk in your lungs changes.
E to get back to the point I saw making
We can smell it and we don’t like it
100% agree, tbh most countries dont know how to handle drugs…look at Portugal for a good example on how to do it.
Either way yes we should let people decide what they do with their lives. We don’t need no one banning bleach cuz a bunch of people decided to drink it too. We didn’t need them around either way.
You won’t mind the pints of arsenic in the pub then.
bring on the sweet release
Yeah no nicotine needs to go too. You shouldn’t be allowed to sell a product that is pretty much guaranteed to make you an addict for the rest of your days. And that’s pretty much what the e-cigs makers have been doing, targeting younger customers to ensure they never run out of addicts even after old fashioned tobacco smokers are gone. The only benefit of nicotine is to relieve nicotine withdrawal symptoms. Vape nicotine-free juice if you enjoy it, but nicotine itself should only be sold in pharmacies to people who are already hooked.