I’ve had my current laptop (dell g5 15, 9th gen i7, 1660ti, 16gb RAM) for 6 years now, and its great for running every game aside from cp2077 at med-high graphics, 60fps smoothly. its on its on its way out though (mostly the issue is cp2077, brings it to its knees, 50fps on low at best)

either way, looking to build something that can do the same as this thing did but at 1440p 120+ fps. what sort of budget will I need for that?

tldr: how much would it cost to build a PC that can run 1440p 120+ fps high settings for the next 5 or so years. ty all :)

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    That’s simply not available without more details. If you want max settings (which isn’t always the best idea) no GPU can do 1440p 120 fps in all games (for example Cyberpunk with path tracing).

    But the closest you can get right now is a RTX 4090 if you have to buy immediately. So you’re looking at a minimum budget of $2600, but with better specs besides the GPU probably more towards $3000.

    And even that won’t last you 5 years when we consider advances in path tracing :-/

    Outside of RT though a 4090 might get you 120+ fps in most games for that time frame.

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      don’t need max, just high. rt doesn’t matter. are you saying that a cheaper card like a 7800xt couldn’t do 1440p 120? or is the issue more with longevity, that it won’t be able to maintain this kind of performance for the next 5 years due to games being more demanding

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        Longevity, you said you want ~5 years out of it or so at that performance.

        But a 7800 XT already can’t hold 1440p 120 fps in a lot of games, it’s pretty high to aim for GPU wise depending on the type of games you like. For what you’re asking a 4090 is pretty much the only option. Or a lesser card now and then an earlier upgrade with the saved money (But even a 4080 is way too expensive, might as well go higher then). 4070 is again too slow, I have a 3080 right now at 1440p and in GPU heavy games reaching 120 fps can be tough.

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          guess imma just have to lower my expectations then. don’t have 1500 to spend on a GPU. thats the max I’d wanna spend on the whole thing. guess I was just aiming too high. thanks for ur help :)

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            I mean I’m talking GPU heavy games (latest releases) at very high / ultra settings. If you are willing to fiddle with settings you can get away with less :)

            For example even on my 3080 I often pull down shadows to high (or even medium in more competitive games), you can use DLSS Quality for another boost (Balanced can be too blurry on 1440p, but sometimes it works) and there’s more ways to get higher fps.

            You’ll be plenty happy with that kind of performance, especially coming from a laptop.

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            1500 would get you 1440p/120FPS capability right now with no issues, my 3070 // Ryzen 5 3600XT get that performance and the build is just about $1500.

            These people are asking you to blow a huge fucking amount on overkill CPU’s that won’t even break a sweat and GPU’s that could give you 4k/140FPS for the next decade. They’re building their dream machines, not giving you an accurate build price.

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                yeah, I’m gonna disagree with this guy. that’s definitely not going to get you that performance for 5 years. that will get you that now on most, but not all games at Max. if you want 120 high 1440 for 5 years you need close to the highest end offered now.

                that said, this community is probably the most amd focused place I’ve ever seen. the debate between amd and Nvidia isn’t nearly as cut and died as they want to make it seem. even if they are mad at nvidia for real reasons. right now nvidia is not chasing traditional rendering at all. so amd is winning when it comes to that, but that’s not where nvidia says the future is. nvidia is building their cards around their objectively superior, even if proprietary, upscaling technology (dlss). so for the next 5 years at least, nvidia will be pushing it’s massive anti competitive weight into making dlss the way of the future. into making sure games are made with performance targets exprecting the use of dlss.

                so honestly, a big part of this decision that no one here will tell you is whether you want to fight for what you believe should be the future of gaming, or you accept that nvidia will just do whatever regardless of how many foss heads scream about it.

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                  if you want 120 high 1440 for 5 years you need close to the highest end offered now.

                  You can pretend to know that for certain all you want, but we have no idea what technological limitations we will run into or change in the market will demand that companies optimize their games because the market simply can’t support buying newer hardware.

                  You’re correct that my build won’t get me the stated performance for five years, but I don’t think you need to snag a 4090 to get 1440p 120FPS with medium graphics five years from now. While you may disagree with that assessment, we are both shooting in the dark here as the market goes through the next half decade.

                  What’s my justification? Performance at a specific resolution is always going to be more important, if my 1660 can get 75FPS on high settings with modern games at 1920x1080p then there’s no reason to believe that a build/card that can get you 144FPS at 1440p high/ultra graphics today won’t be able to play games for five years by just adjusting certain titles down a bit.

                  Five years isn’t even a full console generation, unless the games are planning to be unplayable on consoles they have to be around the same level of capability. His only real concern is VRAM so I think either AMD or a high GB Nvidia on the used market. Pair with a late gen Ryzen 7 AM4 and he’s good to go for a budget friendly build on a more realistic dime.

                  He will have to adjust his settings but that’s not a problem according to him.

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                    didn’t say he needed a 4090 lol. no one needs a4 4090, it’s ridiculous and way way overpriced card. the top end is never worth it. that 4090 well be matched by a 6070tii in like 4 years for like a 5th the price.

                    i said he needed closer to the top, more like a 4070, or a 3070 ti. 40 series is pretty not worth it. (only referencing nvidia because their naming scheme is easier to follow)

                    also, this is all speculative. just as i can’t claim to KNOW what will be needed, neither can you. my prediction is that those specs well leave him struggling at low -medium on new games in 5 years. you can’t claim to know that the hardware will be fine that long any more than i can claim that it won’t. it’s just a prediction and that’s the best anyone can offer.

                    this is a very volatile and uncertain time in the future of pc hardware. my real advice is not to try that hard to predict 5 years from now.