https://theintercept.com/2023/10/13/israel-settlers-gaza-palestinians-west-bank/

Settlers and soldiers have killed 51 Palestinians in the West Bank since Saturday. At least two Palestinian villages have been entirely depopulated.

Settlers — Israeli Jews living in the occupied West Bank — and soldiers have killed 51 Palestinians in the West Bank since Saturday, according to the Palestinian Ministry of Health in Ramallah. At least two villages, Al-Qanub and Wadi Al-Sik, have been entirely depopulated as a result of the violence by Israeli settlers.

the rest of the article is a list of local stories.

  • Jollyllama@lemmy.world
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    I grew up on a jewish settlement with goons just like these. Racism taught to them by religion and nationalism. Not too far off from a Nazi youth upbringing the way we talked about eradicating Palestinians.

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      As a part jewish person I am thankful that people like you exist. People, and especially people that grew around it, should talk more about how dangerous this virulent nationalist ideology is and how much it resembles the nazi ideology in Germany.

  • febra@lemmy.world
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    If Europe cares so much about Ukraine having its lands annexed and illegally ocuppied by Russia I’m sure it will care about Palestine being in the same situation… am I right? Am I right?

    • InternetTubes@lemmy.world
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      If it were in Europe, sure. As it is, Europe largely cares because of the game US-imperialism and ruso-chino-imperialism play with the Middle East. Otherwise, it would be like your typical random country where this shit happens - international condemnation and no action.

    • jaybone@lemmy.world
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      This is an interesting analogy.

      Last I checked, Ukrainians weren’t gunning down Russian teenager.

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        Probably because the Ukrainians have been free for decades and not locked up and abused for decades.

        Also they are killing many Russian teenagers every day, who do you think is fighting on Russias side the elderly?

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          Even more interestingly: the Russians aren’t full-blown racist towards the Ukranians - they even try to force to Ukranians in the Russian-occupied areas of Ukraine to become Russian nationals whilst Israel does the opposite.

          The Israelis are so racist towards Arabs in general that they created a Citizenship separate from Nationality, made Citizenship be tied to religion/etny (i.e. Israeli Jew Citizenship, Israeli Arab Citizenship) and moved rights from Nationality to Citizenship, making some Citizenships (Israeli Jew) have more rights that other citizenships (Israeli Arab, who for example can be kicked out of their homes, as done frequently in Old Jerusalem).

          I mean, imagine the level of racism that takes to change the basic concepts of citizenship and nationality (which are tied together everywhere else) in your country, to by law and at the most essential level create an underclass of citizens with fewer right and do so along etnic and religious lines.

          It’s not by chance people say Israel is an Appartheid state but nobody says that about Russia.

          The thick racism that’s superimposed on the calous disregard for the lives of the civilians of the “other” side (the “calous disregard for human life” being a feature of both Israeli and Russian behaviour in these wars) probably makes the whole Israeli Occupation generate way more hate than what the Russians are doing.

        • jaybone@lemmy.world
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          I meant they weren’t gunning down Russian kids at music festivals prior to the invasion. In other words, they weren’t committing acts of terrorism prior to the war.

          Which is why I don’t think it’s a very good comparison.

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        Nice analogy you got there… because ukrainians have been forced into sewers, literally had family lines ended, and treated like animals or subhumans for decades.

        Id like to see ukrania being occupied for decades and then seeing ukrainians being the ones expected to be tolerant or forgiving.

        “gunning down teenagers” is a funny way of saying gunning down terrorists who have guns and are already killing innocents

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          I meant prior to the war. They were not committing acts of terrorism against Russians.

          Which is why I don’t think it’s a very good comparison.

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        What was Putin’s justification for invading Ukraine? To prevent the genocide of Russians in Ukraine.

        Not saying he was right, but that word sure does get tossed around a lot these days, both in describing conflict and in starting new ones.

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    Deplorable.

    There were some unconfirmed reports that the reason Hamas was able to do so much damage is because 3 battalions that were supposed to guard the border with Gaza were moved to the west bank to protect these illegal settlements.

    The audacity to continue doing this shit while their country is still trying to recover from the biggest terrorist attack in their history is just unbelievable.

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      It’s a feedback loop.

      The more the government supports this, the more far right extremists immigrate and vote for stuff like this to happen.

      Lots of Jewish people don’t support Israeli actions, but they don’t have a say unless they take Israeli citizenship.

      So you get a constant stream of far right extremists who aren’t tired of constant war.

      Meanwhile the last time Gaza got to vote was 17 years ago. When most current residents if Gaza weren’t even born yet old enough to vote.

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        Also there has been a huge growth of vote for the far-right in Israel over a span of decades because the highly-educated types with Western values who more likely to have a Western kind of principles or even be lefties, have 1 or 2 kids like people in the West do, whilst the ultra-orthodox who are the most racist and far-right of all have lots of kids.

        It’s ‘funny’ (but not in a “haha” way) because the reason for not making the Palestinians become Israelis when their land was occupied was that they had lots of children which would, in a democratic nation, end up electing the “wrong kind of people”.

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    OK lock all these people in a room with Hamas. We could solve two problems at once really. The world wouldn’t miss either of those groups.

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    Where are the people calling this an obvious fake, that called the Hamas „Top Secret“ document an obvious fake?

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      It surprises you that bodies are more easily verified than “hey look bro they had this freshly printed sheet of paper bro it tells you how terrible they were planning to be bro you gotta trust me bro”

      Like, what motive would anyone else have for faking this? Anyone capable of thinking for a millisecond that hey, maybe Israel is capable of doing negative things is already disgusted with them for “not wasting a good crisis”.

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      Once bitten, twice shy.

      Though, as more of the fog of war becomes clear, it is becoming more and more likely that Hamas did not plan this on their own. There is information that people in Gaza would not know, tactics they would have never studied in school, equipment that is unique to situations, and planning that goes much more in depth then on a surface level.

      Though it is becoming more and more likely that Iran may have created these documents. Keep in mind this is still speculation. I will come to your house and eat all your pizza if you start spreading it like fact. Because once again; anyone with a printer could have made these documents.

      Please wait for official confirmation before acting on speculation.

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    You really enjoy using inciting language like „genocidal conquerors“, huh? You are also purposefully mixing the Israeli government and the civilian population. Are you referring to Hamas as „baby slaughtering and murdering rapists“ on the other hand? By your standards you have to extend this to the whole population of Gaza, too.