Greetings y’all. I’ve been using ways to circumvent YouTube ads for years now. I’d much rather donate to creators directly instead of using Google as a middle man, needing YouTube Premium. If even pay for premium for just a add free version, if the price wouldn’t be so outrageous. I’ve So far used adblockers, Vanced and then Revanced.
Since the recent developments in this matter, I’ve setup Tubearchivist, a self hosted solution to download YouTube videos for later consumption. It mostly works great, with a few minor things that bother me but I highly recommend it. ReVanced also still works, but nobody knows for how long.
The question now is, if I should use a VPN to obscure my identity to Google. I don’t know if I’m being paranoid here but I wouldn’t put it past Google to block my account, if they see YouTube traffic for my IP address and no served ads. Revanced even uses my main Google account, so not that far fetched.
So far, or at least to my knowledge, Google has never done this but I think they just might in the future. So I’m planning on putting tubearchivist behind a VPN via gluetun.
What do you think? I’m eager to hear your opinions on this.
I can also add my docker compose, if there’s interest and when I’m back on my PC.
I just put this on another post about YT, but seems relevant here:
Adblocking on YouTube is an uphill battle, especially on mobile.
Sign up for a VPN trial, set it to a random country. I think I used Argentina or something. Sign up for YT premium, the prices will shock you. I pay ~2$ US a month for a family subscription.
Turn off your VPN, and enjoy YT premium on the cheap, in your native country.
Or just use Piped, Invidious or any other frontend https://pluja.github.io/awesome-privacy/#youtube
I don’t see any ads in years, just don’t use youtube.com. whether on PC, phone, Android TV.
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I mostly watch YouTube on iOS, Apple TV, or the web on my work computer. So piped etc is not an option for me, this works well.
You have Yattee, works on iOS/AppleTV https://github.com/yattee/yattee
Yeah I’m not sideloading anything that’s not worth me saving $2 a month.
What’s wrong with sideloading free and open source software?
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Just realized that this is about Yattee, you don’t even have to sideload it, it’s on the App Store: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/yattee/id1595136629. Just follow this guide to set it up, it takes 2 minutes.
Is Piped blocked on your work computer? If yes, there’s a guide on how to easily bypass any website block.
Holy shitballs, this is amazing.
Right? Glad I could help :)
I know this is a possibility, but also a risk. The land where you purchased youtube premium doesn’t match your home address so Google notice. Do you use your primary account for this? Do you need a foreign credit card?
Don’t. Don’t install Google spyware on your phone and don’t give this garbage company even a fraction of a cent. Also, stop pretending that it’s impossible to block ads on YouTube, there are many ways to do it: There are web clients like Piped and Invidious, there is FreeTube for Desktop and on Android you can use LibreTube (client for Piped), NewPipe, NewPipe x SponsorBlock, it also has Return YouTube Dislike built in, or Grayjay. On iOS, you can use Yattee, just follow this guide to set it up, it should also work on the Apple TV if I’m not mistaken, or just add the Piped website to your homescreen. If you have a device that runs Android TV, you can use SmartTubeNext.
At that point just don’t use YouTube at all tbh
I don’t see them blocking accounts. What would it achieve? Their goal is to monetize you. By taking you out of the equation, they can’t monetize you anymore. You’ll probably keep doing what you were doing anonymously or with a new account, so blocking you won’t reduce costs either.
On the other hand, Google is collecting a lot of data. Maybe now they aren’t using it very effectively, but sooner or later they might find a key to make YouTube Premium a viable option even for someone like you. By using YouTube and other Google services, you are providing key fragments.
I would say air on the side of caution. I don’t use any google services outside of YouTube so me getting my account banned would cost me nothing. I personally wouldn’t be hurt at all if my account was banned.
If you live in google world and suddenly and irrevocably losing all your google accounts/access/data would be painful you should go with a VPN. Google is a private company where you have no rights to appeal.
Lastly if you do live in google world you should consider getting out. Don’t let mega companies run your life by fear nor allure.
Edit: Don’t use free VPNs. If you are not paying you are the product.
I’m in the process of degoogeling my live. I’ve never used it much, but my phone and the apps that I’ve bought over the years are tied to my account. I still use the calendar and have been to lazy to switch. Google maps too is a big plus. I’ve already gotten rid of cloud storage, as I selfhost nextcloud.
I use airvpn, which is recommended now as mullvad got rid of port forwarding.
It’s rough in some spots but doable. If you are looking for search replacement I found that paying for Kagi was the only way to go. Unlike DuckDuckGo and Bing it does not suck. I’m convinced the reason is because they don’t try to sell you ads.
Kagi was somewhat expensive, if I recall. 10 bucks for unlimited searches put me off, as I don’t have a lot of money right now…
You don’t actually get banned, they just don’t let you watch youtube videos until you turn off your adblocker. You can even sign out and never see the ad block blocks because its tied to your account only.
True but we don’t know what google does to accounts that are bulk download videos from their platform for offline viewing. It’s definitely against the terms of service.
Jup, that is precisely what I meant and why I advocate for people to be cautious, if they use their Google account for more things than just YouTube.
WDYM “block your account” exactly?
You’re being paranoid. Google isn’t going to dick around blocking individuals.
I’m not sure how using a VPN would help in this situation if you are concerned about having your YouTube account banned? Would you being using that VPN while signed out and with cookies/site data cleared?
That would be the case, since tubearchivist requires no account and runs on my server, so no cookies as well.
They might do it, but there could also be a cost to Google if they started banning people’s accounts based on uncertain behavioural metrics. I expect it would at least be a while before they’d go that far. But a VPN can’t hurt.
I don’t think they would block your account, I think they would just block all youtube downloading methods at some point. I use mpv with yt-dlp to watch youtube and it sometimes breaks. I don’t think a vpn would help in any way.
I can’t see Google doing this.
Didn’t read your whole post… But have you tried tubesync? It’s similar to tubearchvist if I recall.
I have not and I’ll look into it tomorrow. Thanks!
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It’s the other way round. I do pay for a VPN anyway and I donate via patron to support creators. A dollar here, a dollar there. It’s still cheaper than a subscription here in Germany and my favorite creators get a bigger payout. I’d be happy to pay for premium if it was something like 5 euros, but 12 a month.
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How is the bullshit. I take 5 bucks every month and use those for patreon. I cycle through the channels so everybody gets a bit. I only pay the lowest tier for one month, then cancel again. Next month, a few different creators…
One view with ads is worth in the area of a cent, most likely less. Most channels upload once or twice a months. If the lowest paying tier is a dollar, they just made 50 times what they would get for ad revenue.
