I thought you would say 30 minutes a day, and here I thought “hey not so bad”. 30 minutes a week?! We opened every workday with 45minutes to 1h and a half “stand-up meetings”. We had full days dedicated to talking about scrum every now and then. Nothing ever got gone, nothing worthwhile was ever discussed, it made my hate my profession. Man I am not going through that ever again.
Do those managers actually believe they’re making things better? At that point you’re wasting so much time talking about being productive instead of being, you know, productive
It makes them look productive tho. Their calendars always look full, because they are really busy being in all those meetings. The circular logic works out just fine for them. They are all input, they have no outputs.
You sound like you worked at my last company also. Scrum is good in principal, but in practice it was just another thing people used to pretend they were valuable rather than actually being valuable. You know you’re doing it wrong when you have to have meeting about how to have meetings before each meeting.
We didn’t have a scrum master but a new development leader implemented it in practice and managed it amazingly. He really made sure that time isn’t wasted and the meetings were short, concise and everyone loved it after a few months. Work processes improved greatly, they used to be in chaos because management were (and still are) a bunch of imbeciles.
But then his probation was over with a 3 month period of notice, and upper management started fucking with him because he refused to sign a legally binding contract of responsibility for the entire company’s infrastructure which wasn’t part of the deal, and was out of his scope (leading the development teams != being responsible for the entire company’s infrastructure).
They started going behind his back and slowly destroyed what he had built and after a while he couldn’t handle it and resigned effective immediately because they threatened him with a lawsuit regarding something he didn’t have anything to do with but was management’s fuckup.
This is the whole story affirmed by my coworkers and him, some of it I saw real time but I’m still on probation, looking for another job. This dev lead guy really liked some of our work for and told us if there’s an opportunity he would want us to come with him and keep working together because he really liked the majority of the team, just the company sucked ass. And I’ll gladly do it because he was amazing.
i always thought it was peak laziness to basically go through entire work days and stories by just chaining endless meetings. Barely any heavy lifting ever gets done, people just spit just enough nonsense to preface the next meeting. I much prefer small corporations where the product (still) actually matters.
When I was supervisor at my old job, that’s quite literally all I did. The title at this position is technically a step down, but everything else has improved.
Better pay, benefits, full wfh, and work load is 1000% less.
So glad my boss trusts our team. Quite literally only have a 30 minute meeting with everyone, once a week.
Very rare they ever ask anything from us. If they ever do, I make sure it’s a priority and it gets done.
I thought you would say 30 minutes a day, and here I thought “hey not so bad”. 30 minutes a week?! We opened every workday with 45minutes to 1h and a half “stand-up meetings”. We had full days dedicated to talking about scrum every now and then. Nothing ever got gone, nothing worthwhile was ever discussed, it made my hate my profession. Man I am not going through that ever again.
Do those managers actually believe they’re making things better? At that point you’re wasting so much time talking about being productive instead of being, you know, productive
It makes them look productive tho. Their calendars always look full, because they are really busy being in all those meetings. The circular logic works out just fine for them. They are all input, they have no outputs.
You sound like you worked at my last company also. Scrum is good in principal, but in practice it was just another thing people used to pretend they were valuable rather than actually being valuable. You know you’re doing it wrong when you have to have meeting about how to have meetings before each meeting.
We didn’t have a scrum master but a new development leader implemented it in practice and managed it amazingly. He really made sure that time isn’t wasted and the meetings were short, concise and everyone loved it after a few months. Work processes improved greatly, they used to be in chaos because management were (and still are) a bunch of imbeciles.
But then his probation was over with a 3 month period of notice, and upper management started fucking with him because he refused to sign a legally binding contract of responsibility for the entire company’s infrastructure which wasn’t part of the deal, and was out of his scope (leading the development teams != being responsible for the entire company’s infrastructure).
They started going behind his back and slowly destroyed what he had built and after a while he couldn’t handle it and resigned effective immediately because they threatened him with a lawsuit regarding something he didn’t have anything to do with but was management’s fuckup.
This is the whole story affirmed by my coworkers and him, some of it I saw real time but I’m still on probation, looking for another job. This dev lead guy really liked some of our work for and told us if there’s an opportunity he would want us to come with him and keep working together because he really liked the majority of the team, just the company sucked ass. And I’ll gladly do it because he was amazing.
i always thought it was peak laziness to basically go through entire work days and stories by just chaining endless meetings. Barely any heavy lifting ever gets done, people just spit just enough nonsense to preface the next meeting. I much prefer small corporations where the product (still) actually matters.
When I was supervisor at my old job, that’s quite literally all I did. The title at this position is technically a step down, but everything else has improved.
Better pay, benefits, full wfh, and work load is 1000% less.