I would argue the opposite. It’s the numbers that tell me it isn’t working well.
Citation required.
Also, are you saying that all jobs are done exactly the same way?
Unless the question is which is better from a productivity and a business perspective.
But that’s not the question being asked.
The question being asked is that can the work be done from home, sufficiently.
I guess I could have done without my personal anecdote
No it wasn’t just your anecdote, it’s just you were way too verbose.
Also, that’s usually a technique used by those who want to redirect the narrative, by throwing over verbose amounts of text out there, so that people turn away from the conversation being talked about.
So its better to be direct and distinct, to get your point across. If that’s your actual goal, that is.
Given that companies, including ones that are KNOWN to be on the bleeding edge (FAANG) and even some whos entire product revolves around WFH (ie: Zoom, Google, etc) are pulling an RTO im not really sure why you are now trying to pigeon hole and pick apart their point, while at the same time saying its not succint. They dont really need to cite anything if folks have been paying attention.
I would agree with the OP here. As a working manager and Individual Contributor at my company, I was spending an inordinate amount of time managing people and their tasks that when in office are perfectly fine performers. But at home they were not. My company also doesnt allow you to just fire people not making goals, thats not how it works, it opens them up to lawsuits of all kinds and there are plenty of weak managers out there, including where i work. Theres an entire process and almost any company with more than a couple hundred employees will be this way too.
I do have folks that are (and were) FTR before COVID and even some of them have struggled because COVID caused their home dynamics to change. Suddenly they arent the only ones home now and other factors become distractions. And not all jobs can be scheduled, many are responsive in nature.
The reality is, on the whole, most adults these days don’t seem to have the self discipline to WFH full time. Some do, and sometimes on sites/platforms like this one or HackerNews you may get an unusually higher concentrations of those rockstars that can handle it also discussing it. But for most, on the whole that doesn’t seem to be the case.
TBH a conversation with chatgpt is more engaging than one with you. So there is that. Since i guess insults are all you can resort to if bad faith arguments fail.
I’m sure it’s your total concern for AInlanguage models and not totally some contrived argument you can use to never be in the wrong. Too short and it’s not detailed enough and lazy.
Too long because someone takes the time to add context and it’s now chatgpt yadda yadda.
You should go back to Reddit with that juvenile logic.
The question being asked is that can the work be done from home, sufficiently.
It’s unlikely that many companies are going to be okay with their labor costs going up 10-20% due to less productive workers, so it is effectively the question being asked.
Also, that’s usually a technique used by those who want to redirect the narrative, by throwing over verbose amounts of text out there, so that people turn away from the conversation being talked about.
We’re talking around 550 words here, taking less than 2 minutes to read for the typical adult. The idea that this was done with ulterior motive to overwhelm people with words cracks me up.
Citation required.
Also, are you saying that all jobs are done exactly the same way?
But that’s not the question being asked.
The question being asked is that can the work be done from home, sufficiently.
No it wasn’t just your anecdote, it’s just you were way too verbose.
Also, that’s usually a technique used by those who want to redirect the narrative, by throwing over verbose amounts of text out there, so that people turn away from the conversation being talked about.
So its better to be direct and distinct, to get your point across. If that’s your actual goal, that is.
Given that companies, including ones that are KNOWN to be on the bleeding edge (FAANG) and even some whos entire product revolves around WFH (ie: Zoom, Google, etc) are pulling an RTO im not really sure why you are now trying to pigeon hole and pick apart their point, while at the same time saying its not succint. They dont really need to cite anything if folks have been paying attention.
I would agree with the OP here. As a working manager and Individual Contributor at my company, I was spending an inordinate amount of time managing people and their tasks that when in office are perfectly fine performers. But at home they were not. My company also doesnt allow you to just fire people not making goals, thats not how it works, it opens them up to lawsuits of all kinds and there are plenty of weak managers out there, including where i work. Theres an entire process and almost any company with more than a couple hundred employees will be this way too.
I do have folks that are (and were) FTR before COVID and even some of them have struggled because COVID caused their home dynamics to change. Suddenly they arent the only ones home now and other factors become distractions. And not all jobs can be scheduled, many are responsive in nature.
The reality is, on the whole, most adults these days don’t seem to have the self discipline to WFH full time. Some do, and sometimes on sites/platforms like this one or HackerNews you may get an unusually higher concentrations of those rockstars that can handle it also discussing it. But for most, on the whole that doesn’t seem to be the case.
One hell of a chatGPT strawman.
TBH a conversation with chatgpt is more engaging than one with you. So there is that. Since i guess insults are all you can resort to if bad faith arguments fail.
Not trying to insult you, trying to call you out for what you really are.
I’m sure it’s your total concern for AInlanguage models and not totally some contrived argument you can use to never be in the wrong. Too short and it’s not detailed enough and lazy.
Too long because someone takes the time to add context and it’s now chatgpt yadda yadda.
You should go back to Reddit with that juvenile logic.
That’s one way to put it.
Considering how insultive you been in the last couple of replies, you might want to look in the mirror.
Also, you realize that there are “tells”, right?
https://fortune.com/2023/08/03/remote-workers-less-productive-research/ https://www.npr.org/2023/08/04/1192246138/the-evidence-on-remote-work-is-changing https://time.com/6294640/remote-work-winning/
It’s unlikely that many companies are going to be okay with their labor costs going up 10-20% due to less productive workers, so it is effectively the question being asked.
We’re talking around 550 words here, taking less than 2 minutes to read for the typical adult. The idea that this was done with ulterior motive to overwhelm people with words cracks me up.