• Thembo McBembo@beehaw.org
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    Have some empathy. These aren’t oligarchs plotting a foreign war, these are everyday people (half the country!) being forced into poverty.

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      For real. Just because Putin is a Bond villain doesn’t make every citizen of Russia one of his goons.

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        The invaders are Russian but most Russians have no real control over their government. It’s easy to suggest “then revolt” when that’s not you.

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      It is however people that in very high degree support their president.

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        How does this support manifest? I’m asking, because there are no real signs. Russian army is struggling to find soldiers and Putin is afraid to start another wave of mass-mobilization.

        If somebody echoes propaganda, it doesn’t mean that they support anything. There are no actions confirming this support.

        There are many more nuances. I suggest reading at least one book on yhe topic of political science and listening to some lectures before coming to conclusions on such a complex matters.

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        The link you attached already mentions that isnt accurate. Not everyone living in Russia will publicly annouce they are against their government even if they are.

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          Right, but we still blame the Germans for WW2. We don’t say, “Well, not The Underground, or the partisans, or…”

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            I don’t and there are many records of Germans who helped Jews and acted against Hitler so why blame everyone. Hate the actual Nazis not the commoners who had no choice.

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              We’re talking about common idioms and modern parlance, not actual blame. Almost everyone involved in WW2 are long dead.

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                Me neither but can you say the same about others in this thread or the comment we are replying to? They seem to actually wish harm to all Russians.

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                  My point is you can’t tell intent from simple statements and you shouldn’t make assumptions when in modern vernacular the phrase is perfectly accepted as syntactically correct.

                  TL;DR – you’re making up arguments no one is arguing.

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                    Mate you’re the one making assumptions here as I even said seem to despite people literally saying its hard to sympathize with Russians. Either way this is going in a completely unrelated direction and pointless to argue more.

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            Define “we”. I don’t know anyone doing that, bar impulsive people on social media.