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I have been using Skiff for about a year or so and was only satisfied with their email which can forward your Gmail emails and have aliases for free, the calendar app didn’t notify me so it was useless but now it does and it works very well, I could also import my Tutanota calendar very easily. The drive has 10gb for free and can now download all your Google drive in one click and you can use IPFS as storage, this company is really making it easy to get out of Google with a smile.

What do you all think about it ?

  • CrypticCoffee@lemm.eeEnglish
    24·
    1 year ago

    Probably an ad, but much more subtle if so. The old ones were so blatant. :)

    What makes you do it with a smile? What does it give you that proton or tutanota doesn’t?

  • sir_reginald@lemmy.world
    231·
    1 year ago

    this company is really making it easy to get out of Google with a smile.

    yet another fake privacy initiative. this post is clearly an ad

        • Mnmalst@kbin.social
          132·
          1 year ago

          Whitepaper is just a different term for a technical documentation[1] and has literally nothing to do with cryptocurrency. Your reasoning in your initial post doesn’t make any sense what so ever. I guarantee most of the companies you mentioned, if not all, published white papers for various topics in their past. I can only repeat myself, white papers have absolutely nothing to do with crypto currency. Just as one example. Check the Signal protocol[2] Wikipedia page and search for whitepaper.

          It’s ok to not know what a white paper is but then don’t start your posts with “Looked pretty interesting, until I saw the “read whitepaper” button.”.

          That being said, where in the skiff white paper did you find crypto currency? Admittedly I didn’t read all or even most of it but a simple search for “currency”, “blockchain” or even “chain” doesn’t return any results. I really hope you don’t talk about the word “crypto”, cause that has an entirely different meaning in that context.

          [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_paper

          [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_Protocol

          *edit: Removed some unnecessary inflammatory language.

        • TQuid@beehaw.orgEnglish
          31·
          1 year ago

          Thank you, soldier, for sparing me wasting time on crypto bullshit.

  • _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    121·
    1 year ago

    Never heard of it, am suspicious.

    Also, those icons in the preview image look like an abstracted Peter Griffin.

    “Lois, look: I’m icons now! Hehehehehehehehe!”

          • _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            11·
            1 year ago

            IDK, I’ve overdosed on Imagination™ and the lines separating reality from fantasy are just gone now: Maybe it was all just some crazy fever dream.

            Fun unrelated fact: It’s is just a contraction of it and is, its would be what you’d use to show ownership (no apostrophe) because English is wacky like that.

            • Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              11·
              1 year ago

              Oh no the radom dude online who speaks another language made a quick mistake. Better make sure to correct him! Why do people always get a boner from grammatics? Its ridiculous! (hehe)

              • _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                1·
                1 year ago

                Ok fine, don’t learn anything.

                For what it’s worth, I didn’t even know English was your second language: You write better than many native speakers, don’t get discouraged it wasn’t my intent to offend.

  • neutron@thelemmy.club
    9·
    1 year ago

    Looks interesting. The first glance it looks like “Yet another company trying to make Email what it isn’t”, which means breaking all compatibility with existing mechanisms (e.g. IMAP) at cost of getting locked-in into their own ecosystem (unless you pay premium and enable IMAP back like Proton does).

    This is why while I want companies like Proton and Tutanota succeed, I don’t use their email products for business purposes.

      • kraniax@lemmy.wtf
        6·
        1 year ago

        the day I don’t find a provider with IMAP support is the day I’ll leave email for good. You won’t force me to use your absurdly bloated and full of telemetry web clients or your incompatible encryption.

        OpenPGP + NeoMutt has been my email workflow for 10 years now.

          • kraniax@lemmy.wtf
            4·
            1 year ago

            I didn’t mean this specific one. I don’t know anything about Skiff other than this post is a sketchy camouflaged ad for them.

            If they supported IMAP maybe I would look further, but that’s my very first requisite that they didn’t meet.

    • cheese_greater@lemmy.world
      10·
      1 year ago

      People need to stop trying to make email as a medium private outside of choosing providers that don’t scan or snoop or offer unauthorized (by which I mean YOU do not consent to them sharing with ANYBODY or ORGANIZATION) externalized access or monetize on that which you send/receive/retain.

      Don’t send an email unless you are aware and consent to it being preserved and shared endlessly with zero input or consideration for your view of that.

      • miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml
        8·
        1 year ago

        Mails being encrypted end-to-end would obviously be ideal, but yeah. How many people outside of our privacy bubble use a private service, and/or have PGP set up? How many even know what PGP is?

        The messages that sit in my inbox being encrypted and not being accessed by the provider I’m using is realistically the best I can hope for.

        • cheese_greater@lemmy.world
          4·
          1 year ago

          PGP to me is literally only of any interest as a quick way to encrypt anything/files/documents (in a preferable format to zip or archives etc) in a keyfile type fashion where you need the credential and password for any given decryption and it can be done so quickly if you have a good app.

          I would never use it for like email stuff, if we’re talking about messaging its gotta be Signal or Threema or Matrix(Element, Session) etc. Maybe Olvid or SimpleX is interesting too but I’m open to a larger discussion of messaging and the available platforms and discussion of the nitpickier deets.

        • SpeakinTelnet@programming.dev
          3·
          1 year ago

          I’ve been told multiple times that having a @protonmail email makes me look like a conspiracy theorist, once in an interview. Privacy is way more niche than I’d hope for.

          • BearOfaTime@lemm.ee
            2·
            1 year ago

            In an interview?

            Glad they let you know their ignorance on security up front.

            Seriously, do they leave their doors open for anyone to walk in, or do they use badge readers like everyone else?

            • SpeakinTelnet@programming.dev
              1·
              1 year ago

              Some companies don’t see privacy as security. They want to know your background, when you punch in/ punch out, if you’re the type of person to leak secrets over the “dark web”.

              Some also don’t believe in privacy at all, they believe in contract. When choosing a platform they want to know if they can sue them for breaching an NDA.

              I did not receive an offer from that specific interview but yeah, I admit it was odd and didn’t inspire trust so I wouldn’t have accepted anyway.

    • visnudeva@lemmy.mlOP
      31·
      1 year ago

      You can choose between Skiff storage or IPFS, IPFS is a decentralized file storage system, which means that there is no central authority controlling the system, making it more secure than traditional centralized file storage systems. IPFS uses a number of security features, such as encryption and hashing, to protect files, making it a secure way to store sensitive information.

      I don’t know about email encryption except for what they say.

      They call copy and paste are called move and duplicate.

      As I said their app are not perfect yet but they are improving very fast, what is missing is being fixed as we speak.

      • taladar@sh.itjust.works
        3·
        1 year ago

        there is no central authority controlling the system, making it more secure than traditional centralized file storage systems.

        Not really. Maybe more available but almost certainly less secure compared to files just sitting on a single server somewhere in terms of data being accessible to attackers.

    • qaz@lemmy.world
      1·
      1 year ago

      What is the advantage of IPFS over other storage types?

      I think it allows syncing without requiring a central node, that’s how AnyType seems to use it.

      What I don’t understand is how can anyone claim that their mail is encrypted, if Skiff does that for them (as in, non-Skiff to Skiff mail conversation)? There’s still a third party involved, right?

      I think it’s mostly about the fact that the mail is encrypted after being received by the Skiff mail server.

  • Decentralizr@lemmy.world
    43·
    1 year ago

    Switched a while back from proton to skiff and loving it. Also the send emails later feature is great.

  • visnudeva@lemmy.mlOP
    11·
    1 year ago

    For those who think it is an AD, it isn’t. I just like Skiff so I made a post about it to see what people from the privacy sub think of it, clearly and without much explanation most of you don’t like it. I genuinely thought it was a good company, now I am not sure anymore without knowing why. I would have loved more explainations about why is it so bad.

    • CrypticCoffee@lemm.eeEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      We don’t know what it is, but there is history on Lemmy of them listing out every feature, asking I’d anyone used it as they didn’t. Why woupd anyone do that? More blatant in the past, but worth being on guard against them.

      Plus advertising e2e encrypted emaill which is impossible unless recipient is same service.

        • CrypticCoffee@lemm.eeEnglish
          21·
          1 year ago

          Oh I know. It is your call. I’ve not seen much evidence of tutanova/proton Lemmy adverts. This service is quite new in comparison and there is clearly some astroturfing on lemmy. We don’t know how good or bad they are tbh. The fact they are pushing it rather than relying on word of mouth is a little sketchy.

          Whether it is deleted or not, I’ll at least call out advertising so people are aware rather than being led to believe it is recommended.