Any israelis or palestinians who engage in this war, for terrorist reasons, retaliation, or just for the sick thrill they get from killing children, is a total monster and to blame in every way with no exception. And all who participate, will burn in hell for the rest of eternity without exception and in every possible way. I am a lone voice screaming the horror of this war mentality into the wind. War is not a justifiable response to ANYTHING. And it never can be. But most especially, it cannot be justified by any group claiming to have any actual religious ideals of any kind.
This isn’t a religious war. Even Hamas rewrote their charter in 2017 to specify that their resistance is against the Israeli state and not Judaism, and ended their relationship with the muslim brotherhood.
Sure many are religious and fundamentalists, but the majority Palestinian resistance is resisting because of colonialism and apartheid, not because a cleric has demanded it holy to do so.
As a Jew, I’d like you to know we don’t have the concept of hell.
The afterlife is pretty simple, if you lived as a good Jew (they aren’t) you live with God. If you live as a bad Jew, you live without God. That’s really about it.
That’s the Christian heaven and hell as I understand them too. From when I was being taught from someone who had studied the scripture, as a theologian, in an intense historical and philosophical way said the only canon Christians have on hell is that it is living without god. A lot of the imagery of Christian hell is about as biblically supported as Santa Claus. I could be wrong but that man knew more about Every Abrahamic religion than anyone id ever conversed with, and plenty of non Abrahamic ones too.
Interesting I actually didn’t know that. One of the unfortunate parts of growing up with a bible thumper Christian step mom is you don’t actually learn the bible, you get told bullshit that isn’t true.
I like that concept. I happen to be atheistic, but I’ve worked with professors who were of the Jewish faith and helped serve and prepare food in their congregation and I love the people and their generosity. I’ve yet to encounter anyone of the Jewish faith I would call a bad person (but I’m not saying they aren’t out there, there are some in every tenet and faith). Thanks for the clarification!!
Fun fact, you’ll meet plenty of Jews who are atheistic as well. There’s a running joke in the community “ahh yes the time honored Jewish tradition of atheism.”
Without getting too personal, I’m actually agnostic. At least I think that’s the proper term. I don’t wonder if God exists, I wonder if it matters if God exists.
That is funny - “the time honored Jewish tradition of atheism.” X ). I’m actually more agnostic myself, but my atheist friends think I’m just “hedging my bet” by not committing. It isn’t so much that I am on the fence, but rather, that I have always had an unshakable sense that something larger and greater in power (but unknowable to us) IS out there - not sure what to call it, and whether someone calls it god or not, there is a force to be reckoned with that is overarching and shaping the universe, which to me is something that matters.
Well I agree with you totally - I don’t personally believe in heaven or hell or any of that nonsense, but you would think that groups that DO believe in hell would try their best not to end up in it.
Any israelis or palestinians who engage in this war, for terrorist reasons, retaliation, or just for the sick thrill they get from killing children, is a total monster and to blame in every way with no exception. And all who participate, will burn in hell for the rest of eternity without exception and in every possible way. I am a lone voice screaming the horror of this war mentality into the wind. War is not a justifiable response to ANYTHING. And it never can be. But most especially, it cannot be justified by any group claiming to have any actual religious ideals of any kind.
6/10 - like the drama you put into it but I think overall there is not enough Iam14AndThisIsDeep.
Yeah, seems like the kind of thing that would be upvoted way more on reddit.
There is no hell, and that is the problem; those fighting believe in it.
This isn’t a religious war. Even Hamas rewrote their charter in 2017 to specify that their resistance is against the Israeli state and not Judaism, and ended their relationship with the muslim brotherhood.
Sure many are religious and fundamentalists, but the majority Palestinian resistance is resisting because of colonialism and apartheid, not because a cleric has demanded it holy to do so.
As a Jew, I’d like you to know we don’t have the concept of hell.
The afterlife is pretty simple, if you lived as a good Jew (they aren’t) you live with God. If you live as a bad Jew, you live without God. That’s really about it.
That’s the Christian heaven and hell as I understand them too. From when I was being taught from someone who had studied the scripture, as a theologian, in an intense historical and philosophical way said the only canon Christians have on hell is that it is living without god. A lot of the imagery of Christian hell is about as biblically supported as Santa Claus. I could be wrong but that man knew more about Every Abrahamic religion than anyone id ever conversed with, and plenty of non Abrahamic ones too.
Interesting I actually didn’t know that. One of the unfortunate parts of growing up with a bible thumper Christian step mom is you don’t actually learn the bible, you get told bullshit that isn’t true.
Hell was straight up stolen from the norse mythology, they kept the name and everything.
That’s what I learned in CCD in the 90s.
As a Catholic school attendee I’d like to thank you for the half-days we had every Wednesday to accommodate CCD kids
I like that concept. I happen to be atheistic, but I’ve worked with professors who were of the Jewish faith and helped serve and prepare food in their congregation and I love the people and their generosity. I’ve yet to encounter anyone of the Jewish faith I would call a bad person (but I’m not saying they aren’t out there, there are some in every tenet and faith). Thanks for the clarification!!
You’re very welcome!
Fun fact, you’ll meet plenty of Jews who are atheistic as well. There’s a running joke in the community “ahh yes the time honored Jewish tradition of atheism.”
Without getting too personal, I’m actually agnostic. At least I think that’s the proper term. I don’t wonder if God exists, I wonder if it matters if God exists.
That is funny - “the time honored Jewish tradition of atheism.” X ). I’m actually more agnostic myself, but my atheist friends think I’m just “hedging my bet” by not committing. It isn’t so much that I am on the fence, but rather, that I have always had an unshakable sense that something larger and greater in power (but unknowable to us) IS out there - not sure what to call it, and whether someone calls it god or not, there is a force to be reckoned with that is overarching and shaping the universe, which to me is something that matters.
Thanks for your feedback I really enjoy it.
Well I agree with you totally - I don’t personally believe in heaven or hell or any of that nonsense, but you would think that groups that DO believe in hell would try their best not to end up in it.