• mrdown@lemmy.world
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      3 days ago

      Didn’t israel made themselves fair game by maintaining occupation for 57 goddamn year?

      And to answer your question no. Non comabattants can’t be killed and even combattants not in fighting position can’t be attacked

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        The same occupation after Israel’s Arab/Palestinian neighbors went to war against Israel and lost? Imagine what would be the situation today if Israel’s neighbors instead sought to cement the then-declared borders and work for peaceful relations. War’s consequences can be long-lasting.

        Non comabattants can’t be killed and even combattants not in fighting position can’t be attacked

        According to who? Geneva convention disagrees. And I think most of us here will cheer when Ukraine lobs a missile at a base in Russia, taking out non-combatant military officers or civilians operating oil refineries.

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          The same occupation after Israel’s Arab/Palestinian neighbors went to war against Israel and lost?

          Settler colonialism is illegal even if arab started the war to prevent that exact plan that the zionists never hided. Also gaza was occupied in 67 and it was israel who started the attack. When you lose a war , the winner doesn’t get the right to own the land. The land simply become occupied with the occupied have the right to get it back

          Would you have supported British geocoding jews when Zionists did the king David hotel bombing where 17 jews was murdered . Would you support the usa genociding israel because they attacked the USS Liberty just like you support genociding Palestinians

          Imagine what would be the situation today if Israel’s neighbors instead sought to cement the then-declared borders and work for peaceful relations.

          Imagine if Zionists stayed in their countries instead of forcing a state on the local population. Certain Arab suggested a one state solution since the beginning but Zionists always wanted the whole land

          after the formation of a large army in the wake of the establishment of the state, we will abolish partition and expand to the whole of Palestine - Ben Gurion

          According to who? Geneva convention disagrees.

          Why are you lying. Geneva convention definitely prohibit it. With your logic Hamas did nothing wrong in 7 of October since they attacked many soldiers and kidnapped people who are serving the idf but are not in their service

          Article 3

          In the case of armed conflict not of an international character occurring in the territory of one of the High Contracting Parties, each Party to the conflict shall be bound to apply, as a minimum, the following provisions:

          1. Persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including members of armed forces who have laid down their arms and those placed hors de combat by sickness, wounds, detention, or any other cause, shall in all circumstances be treated humanely, without any adverse distinction founded on race, colour, religion or faith, sex, birth or wealth, or any other similar criteria.

            To this end, the following acts are and shall remain prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever with respect to the above-mentioned persons:

            a) Violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds, mutilation, cruel treatment, and torture;

            b) Taking of hostages;

            c) Outrages upon personal dignity, in particular humiliating and degrading treatment;

            d) The passing of sentences and the carrying out of executions without previous judgment pronounced by a regularly constituted court, affording all the judicial guarantees which are recognized as indispensable by civilized peoples.

          2. The wounded and sick shall be collected and cared for. An impartial humanitarian body, such as the International Committee of the Red Cross, may offer its services to the Parties to the conflict.

          3. The Parties to the conflict should further endeavour to bring into force, by means of special agreements, all or part of the other provisions of the present Convention.

          The application of the preceding provisions shall not affect the legal status of the Parties to the conflict.

          The guy that Israel tried to kill was a non combatant and a negotiator to release the hostages. So how can you claim to want peace when you murder negotiators. Shame on you

          I can’t believe that i should explain simple logic like this . Go back to reddit where there is pro genocide people like you because here 99.9% of people are anti occupation and pro Palestine

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            1. Gaza belonged to Egypt. Egypt does not want Gaza back, nor does Egypt want a single Palestinian to cross their border. No aid, no refugees, no restoring older borders for Palestinians to be once again inside Egypt. It seems that Gaza as a spoil of war is a spoil that nobody wants because nobody wants to deal with the people that come with the territory.

            2. Your citation of article III doesn’t say what you think it says. Political organizers are partaking in hostilities as are anyone in the supporting political apparatus of the attackers. Those who have laid down arms are soldiers in combat who have surrendered. If Hamas wishes to lay down arms and surrender, this ends. That’s what should happen. Hamas should surrender, every one of them, and all their arms. They need to give the people of Gaza an end to this war and Hamas’ surrender is the surest way for this to happen. Perhaps it is the only way it’ll happen. That said, we all know Hamas has no intent to release any other hostage and has no intent to ever surrender. They will all die and they will take as many civilians with them as possible.