• YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Israel wants to relocate a ethnic people. Certain group like to call that genocide because it sounds worse. Genocide actually means killing off a ethnic group. Population transfer is what Israel wants to do.

    Latin: genos (race or tribe) and cide (killing).

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          Ethnic cleansing is a component of genocide.

          I think the politicians and diplomats who got together in 1948 were cognizant of that.

          Consider

          You ethnically cleanse a population, they resist, fighting breaks out. The ethnic cleansing moves into a pogrom, repeat… Genocide.

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            Yes, but their intentions are a forced migration or population transfer. Saying cleaning or genocide means the wholesale murder of the population. So you’re using loaded language which is weakening your argument.

            Israel has made it clear they no longer welcome Palestinians along their border. They have been working with neighbors to accept them and essentially the two state option is no longer an option. That isn’t ethnic cleansing or genocide, that is a population transfer.

            Now had both sides worked together and forged a diplomatic relationship the two state option would have been successful, but that didn’t occur. Both sides were continually hostile to one another. Now the Palestinian people are going to be relocated and will once again be stateless.

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              ethnic cleansing Wiktionary

              The mass expulsion or killing of people belonging to one ethnic group by those of another.

              It seems we’re using different definitions of ethnic cleansing. I present to you the dictionary and Wikipedia.

              Wikipedia

              Forced relocation of the population, is ethnic cleansing by definition.

              I’m using dictionary definitions, internationally agreed definitions, I’m using the words as their intended in international law and in common usage. I believe that strengthens my argument