• Johannes Jacobs@lemmy.jhjacobs.nl
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    25 days ago

    I always thought i was left, but seeing how a lot of people on the left gleefully react to someone’s assasination makes me wonder if i’m actually left.

    I don’t mourn Charlie Kirk’s passing, i never liked him. But i certainly don’t celebrate his murder either. Anyone who does should be put in a mental asylum as far as i’m concerned. They certainly have mental health problems.

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      25 days ago

      If you’re basing whether or not you’re “left” on anecdotal evidence of some leftists celebrating his death, you probably weren’t very left to begin with.

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          I’ve come to think of myself as trying to be outside of the social constructs that America is currently shedding.

          I see society as layered. A social fabric that we weave by acting our beliefs within our communities, which layers atop nature. Upon that we build a structure of law, order, and an artificial economy that we see as beneficial in maintaining a healthy society. It’s important that these three layers closely conform to each other, and that the structures at the top remain minimalistic and efficient in their alignment to the fabric itself, which is more organic.

          But the structure has become unwieldly, and is being used against us. It confines us. It enslaves us. The vast majority of people are acting out against this, and their actions are colored by their upbringings and beliefs combined with propaganda. Our diversity is being amplified through anger at our situation, the hate of the propaganda, and the greed that has become systemic.

          Then there are the people who seek to rule us. To some degree they recognize that they can manipulate a failing system to take absolute control. They’ve figured out that they can control us by our anger, and turn it into hate and greed.

          Right, left… it doesn’t matter. The whole system is coming down. There’s a lot more to that, but as it stands… there’s a reason a lot of us feel driven to go live on a mountain top or the depths of the forest. It’s a withdrawal from an unjust system. But we still need the social fabric, it’s our substrate that makes us who we are. We need to embrace our communities, locally, and focus on making the lives we want everyone to be able to have as we eventually pull through this period of authoritarian fascism.

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      25 days ago

      I always thought i was left, but seeing how a lot of people on the left gleefully react to someone’s assasination makes me wonder if i’m actually left.

      I don’t mourn Benito Mussolini’s passing, i never liked him. But i certainly don’t celebrate his murder either. Anyone who does should be put in a mental asylum as far as i’m concerned. They certainly have mental health problem

          • Johannes Jacobs@lemmy.jhjacobs.nl
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            25 days ago

            How many people did Charlie order to kill? Since when was he the dictator of America? Please do enlighten me, because clearly you know so much more then i do…

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              Charlie’s job was propaganda. He laundered the fascist ideology into mainstream discourse. If my coworker said some of the awful shit Charlie said, I’d just think he was a racist piece of shit, but I wouldn’t celebrate his murder (nor would I mourn it). But Charlie had an audience of millions, and was paid handsomely to spread his fascist propaganda. I opened my nicest bottle of scotch when I heard the news.

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          You need better mental health care.

          you start off by saying you’ve always thought you’re on the left

          but the moment you disagree with someone, you start shit like this, which is a very common pattern of argument from right-wingers.

          “I think your opinion is so wrong that it’s a symptom of mental illness” is just fucking stupid. do better. or, if you refuse to do better, stop attempting the “I’ve always been on the left but…” shtick. it is absolutely see-through and does not fool anyone.

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      25 days ago

      I feel like you but I also feel kirk should be treated a bit by his own preachings. He said empathy is weakness and bad policy and not a virtue. He said gun deaths are worth it for the second amendment. He said families should bring their children to witness executions. All these things he said are embodied in his fate. If anyone ever died in a way that embraces their own words it is him.