A friend is looking for one and I don’t know what to recommend.

Assuming that the goal is to never connect it to the internet and plug in another device with HDMI.

  • NaibofTabr@infosec.pubEnglish
    27·
    20 days ago

    The Dell P5524Q is a 55" conference room monitor. It has no built-in wifi, microphones, camera, or other smart tv bullshit, it’s just a big monitor. It just turns on when you turn it on and turns off when you turn it off - it doesn’t take 5 minutes to boot up because of the shitty low-grade computer hardware built into it. You can find them on eBay in the US$900 range.

      • Fondots@lemmy.world
        31·
        20 days ago

        Almost 2 decades ago I paid close to that for a 50" plasma TV as one of my first big purchases after I got my first job.

        Of course this isn’t a direct 1:1 comparison, they’re different display technologies, TVs these days have a 4k if not 8k resolution when that one I bought was 720p, there’s been almost 20 years of advancement driving costs down, and 20 years of inflation driving them up, etc.

        So I don’t even know where to begin trying to fairly compare the relative costs of those 2 TVs

        But back then tv manufacturers also weren’t getting paid to include apps, and put a button on their remotes to launch Amazon prime, or show me ads, or anything of the sort. Their only revenue stream was me buying the tv.

        • njm1314@lemmy.world
          3·
          20 days ago

          Well you can get a smart TV of that size for $300 or less. Which you can always just not hook up to the Internet, still have to deal with a crappy operating system but I don’t think that’s worth $600 to avoid really. Also elsewhere in this thread there’s a link to a Samsung non-smart TV of that size for 600 so I really think 900 is too much.

    • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.auEnglish
      31·
      19 days ago

      This looks absolutely terrible to use as a tv. 350nits brightness alone makes it unusable. No HDR, only 60hz, terrible contrast too.

    • deranger@sh.itjust.works
      6·
      20 days ago

      Seriously. I’ve had an LG B7 for many years now and it’s amazing. It’s not internet connected and I don’t use any of the built in apps. Straight up display.

      The first time a pitch black scene came on and my room likewise went pitch black was something else. No going back from OLED after that.

      • s38b35M5@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        20 days ago

        I think that’s the same OLED I have. B7 or C7. It’s starting to band on red, but I got at least… 7 (?) years out of it, and the bands are only mildly annoying. Similarly, I have never connected it to the internet, and don’t use any of the apps.

        It’s not very bright, but I’ll take that over washed out or blotchy blacks. I’ll shop for a used OLED like this when I’m ready.

  • ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.worldEnglish
    20·
    20 days ago

    Sony Bravia. Because I just did this last year. My old TV was also a Bravia, and it lasted about 15 years. One big selling feature for me was that you can set it up as either a smart TV, or a ‘basic’ TV that doesn’t require an Internet connection and doesn’t pester you for one.

  • solrize@lemmy.ml
    152·
    20 days ago

    I’d buy an HDMI monitor instead of a TV, I guess. Why a new one though? There are tons of super cheap ones at goodwill stores.

  • Veedem@lemmy.worldEnglish
    12·
    20 days ago

    LG OLED. You can find last year’s models at some price clubs. I’ve seen the 65” C4 for like $1100 which is great.

  • jeffw@lemmy.worldM
    12·
    20 days ago

    LG or Samsung, but the model matters too. If you’re on a budget, there are some solid TCL options

  • paequ2@lemmy.todayEnglish
    10·
    20 days ago

    Assuming that the goal is to never connect it to the internet and plug in another device with HDMI.

    Ooh, this sounds like you may be interested in Commercial TVs? I heard those are the closest you can get to a dumb TV. I haven’t dived deeper than that though.

    Any one have experience with commercial TVs?

    Samsung Commercial TVs: https://www.samsung.com/us/business/displays/commercial-tvs/

    This one even calls out that it’s not smart:

    Samsung HU600F Non-Smart Hospitality TV with Pro:Idiom for Set Top Box Deployments

    • ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      20 days ago

      There’s are still some consumer TVs out there that allow you to use the green without an Internet connection. Although they are kinda rare these days.

    • Veedem@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      20 days ago

      You need to be mindful of specs when looking at commercial panels. Video quality is not a primary focus so I’ve seen them use 8 bit and even 6 bit panels instead of the recommended 10 bit or 12 bit panels.

      • s38b35M5@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        20 days ago

        I’m lucky! Mine (2015 pro) has been awesome, except for when it was going through a Demon AVR. Its fine when direct to the TV or through the Onkyo. It has flaked out before though, and I never updated to the “experience” version that introduced ads on the home screen.

      • Scott@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        3·
        20 days ago

        I’ve read through quite a few posts about specific issues with CEC on LG TVs, just kinda hoping they get fixed when Nvidia actually cares to do something about it

  • GreenShimada@lemmy.world
    8·
    20 days ago

    For sure, never ever connect it to the internet.

    Samsung equipment is pretty good, and to some degree the larger companies subsidize the cost of the TV with the assumption that you’ll connect it and give them data to sell. So while a large monitor might be more expensive, there’s a reason why. Unless your friend actually gets over the air TV stations, consider a large monitor, then Samsung and LG.

  • codenamekino@lemmy.world
    7·
    20 days ago

    I dont see it mentioned here, but I went with a 75" Spectre earlier this year. I had a 40" Spectre that was given to me third- hand, and I only replaced it because it was too small for the new place I moved into. Spectre doesn’t seem to even offer smart TV, and I wanted to support that decision. The only potential downside that you may see is the lack of a 4k offering, but that wasn’t something I care about.

  • Know_not_Scotty_does@lemmy.world
    7·
    20 days ago

    I bought a hisense tv last year, you can run advtv to cripple its ability to phone home and disable stuff, then install projectivy launcher to bypass all the other bullshit.

    Sony also was an option for that.