• naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    he was a misogynistic, homophobic, idiot.

    have you actually read his stupid manifesto? he thinks the badness is when no tradwives.

    Maybe don’t idolise psychopathic killers

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      The issue with kascynski is that people have disconnected from the reality of the man and instead projected some kind of cultural symbolism onto his image, largely because he’s become known as the crazy guy who hates technology.

      He’s become a symbol for that feeling you get when you hear of some deranged and dystopian new technology that’s being researched. I remember a couple years ago reading about an idea to use psychedelics to augment prisoners’ sense of time so that they can serve thousands of years of multiple life sentences in a couple of months. Or that feeling of dread you get when news breaks that a meat packing plant has been employing hundreds of literal children to clean for them. There are definitely some things in our society where a normal person looks at it and thinks that things are going a bit off the rails.

      Weirdly, or perhaps not, Kascynski has become more known for the title of his deranged paper than the actual content or the real impact his bombing spree had. He’s been turned into a cultural symbol for “they were so focused on if they could, that they never stopped to think if they should”. As we advance technologically each year, and as corporations continue to get away with abusing the general public and the planet as a whole for the sake of profits, I think it’s only natural that some people look at it and think “maybe this isn’t going in the right direction”

      It’s a stretch to think that any of these people actually condone or encourage being a deranged incel that mails bombs to random professors or computer stores. They’re just expressing the gnawing dread that many feel about the hostile takeover of our society by huge corporations that are designed to do nothing but extract huge amounts of money from us in exchange for ever less reliable technologies and a planet that will become more and more uninhabitable as time wears on.

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        So yes he has become a symbol but use a better one.

        It’s a stretch to think that any of these people actually condone or encourage being a deranged incel that mails bombs to random professors or computer stores

        I am not that confident, this is how spaces and people get radicalised. Like years back 4Chan was just edgy idiots making Nazi jokes sometimes to be shocking, but actual Nazis see that as acceptance and get stronger and bolder in their views. Then they say horrible things, fence sitters see it as an acceptable joke and it slightly normalises it in their mind. Eventually 8Chan exists and we know how that goes.

        If you hold up murderers then you normalise redeeming them, and you signal you’re receptive to their methods and ideas to people who support them already. You also normalise viewing them positively in vulnerable or lost people. Some of which are literal children.

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      Yeah it’s actually wild the amount of fanfare this psycho has. Deranged and put on a pedestal. Anyone that does that for him, hasn’t gone into actual detail on what he did, how he did it, and why. Just taken in rose-tinted imagery of a mentally ill man. That Netflix show, “manhunt” or whatever, is also garbage.

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        I find it kinds disgusting how rapidly some people will side with a killer if they did it in a slightly dramatic way and if you squint can be considered to share some elements of ideology.

        Like if anyone upvoting this tasteless joke had ever wondered how chuds on 4Chan can idolise mass shooters well now you know. They’re doing what you’re doing.

        Dude was a vile nutter.

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      He was a victim of project MK Ultra. Brainwashed by the United States government at the time. They ruined his mind. He was once a bright young student.

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      I’m not american, i’m italian, so i don’t share most of your culture. With this premise i want to express my cultural shock when i see americans joining the person personal life from his ideas. A lot of historial figures were horrible people, even for their times ( see Caravaggio ) , but this is a different thing from their ideas. More i read american POV , more i think that you have an huge problem with free speech ( i mean accepting different POV ). Success as a superpower it is not: other people are totaly dumb. And this problem it is not left/right, but really common. Btw: ted k. has some interesting points, but it is not the TRUTH, as everything. One person has a brain and can read and judge everything, other people are more or less smart as we are so they cannot tell me what to read or what to think.

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        I’m not American. Mailbombing is not the way regardless of where you live.

        His ideas are stupid and juvenile, a tantrum from someone lashing out at the world.

        The only stuff that’s slightly redeemable is his anti tech alienation stuff and you can go get better discussions from either Marx or the Luddites.

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          Btw, americans worried about a serial killer make me wonder. On the other site i see thousands of upvotes for the best/big kiilling of an american enemy…