Source : @caitoz

I know that it’s because saying something with anguish or surprise means that it rarely happens, but this sentence striked me by its truthfulness.

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    1 year ago

    Why do you keep trying to connect this to the outdated notion of tribes? You seem to have a conclusion planned and are trying to build arguments towards it. That’s not how logic works.

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      1 year ago

      Tribes or nationalism, what’s the difference except perhaps size ?
      I’m just explaining why i saw an interest in this sentence.

      And if it’s a commentary on human nature, then we’re fucked, i like the current meaning of being humane. I know we’re capable of the best, we’re simply not perfect and must improve, abandoning tribalism/nationalism and helping each other has been asked for millenias and it may happen but i hope it won’t be at the cost of our diversity.

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        Tribes or nationalism, what’s the difference except perhaps size ?

        Did you hear me championing nationalism?

        if it’s a commentary on human nature, then we’re fucked,

        You’re all over the place, dude.

        i like the current meaning of being humane.

        Okay??

        I know we’re capable of the best, we’re simply not perfect and must improve

        I can agree here.

        abandoning tribalism/nationalism and helping each other has been asked for millenias and it may happen but i hope it won’t be at the cost of our diversity.

        I believe it can happen, without sacrificing diversity.

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            1 year ago

            Fuck no. I don’t agree that someone can be assumed selfish and tribalistic for not reading your mind when you vaguely refer to tragedy.

            Let me try: there’s been a murder! Can you guess where it was??

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              1 year ago

              You’re absolutely right, the truthfulness of this sentence doesn’t teach us that someone is tribalistic by assuming it happened locally.

              It’s only my assumption that an answer to “in the Middle-East” would be “Ah ? Ok, i was afraid for a while(, i thought it was on our side)” that made me thought that. I understand that it was received as an unfair accusation yet i included myself in this and found this assumption more interesting by its truthfulness.

              As i wrote in the selftext :

              In the end, i found this statement more interesting than it ought to be, as if it taught us something. Our actions are tribal/destructive and there’s enough proof for this, but this statement isn’t one of them.