• ExLisper@linux.community
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      But if people don’t suffer in prison how will you make them afraid of committing crimes? /s

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        Yeah… because nobody avoided committing a crime because they were afraid of going to prison. /s

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            People avoid committing crimes because they are afraid of going to prison.

            Lol. Crazy how these things need to be spelled out for you, but I guess that’s where we are now 🤷

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              People avoid committing crimes because of their education and morals. If the only thing stopping you from murdering someone is fear of prison you’re a psychopath. Most people are not like you and they don’t want others to suffer. Most criminals commit crimes because of lack of education and opportunities. They don’t care about going to prison because they have nothing outside of it they will lose like a good job or house. Europeans know that and focus on reeducation i.e. giving opportunities to people that commit crimes so that they don’t do it again. Americans also know that isolating criminals from society is not punishment enough so they try to add as much suffering to it as possible. When people suffer in prisons they feel justice was truly served. It’s just one of many examples of how primitive American society is.

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                Okay you got me!

                People don’t avoid committing crimes because they’re afraid of going to prison. I was so wrong. Thank you for enlightening me.

                We should never punish criminals. We should only ‘rehabilitate’ them in the most comfortable manner possible. Everyone can be ‘rehabilitated’ and nobody I mean nobody is going to take advantage of lax punishments to commit more crimes!

                You’re so wise and definitely not being taken advantage of.

                If the only thing stopping you from murdering someone is fear of prison you’re a psychopath.

                What about robbery? Lol.

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                  Lol. I guess you never heard about ‘life in prison’. Let me explain: it’s a special form of punishment for people judged ‘unrehabilitatable’. In Europe. if it’s decided that someone is a psychopath he’s locked up in prison forever. That way he cannot commit more crimes! Problem solved! And we don’t have to torture them to feel better. Such genius!

                  We should never punish criminals.

                  LoL. Just wait till you learn about other forms of punishment we have like fines or social work. We can punish people without locking them up! How amazing is that? And also we do have prisons, that’s where the reeducation happens. Weird you didn’t realize that.

                  lax punishments

                  L.O.L Just because people are reeducated in prisons doesn’t mean the punishments are lax. The fact that you consider any punishment that is not torture ‘lax’ just further proves all my points.

                  Seriously, you sound like a child that knows 10% of justice system and thinks he understands all of it. Or rather like typical American.

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                Don’t argue with edgy teenagers, see his last reply, he is either 12 years old or functionally an idiot, Not worth the time nor energy.

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                    Fair enough. The blocking function is just a god send to me. I just take a look at their comment history, if it’s just full of bad takes I decide I don’t need their opinions in my life.

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              That’s called Rational Choice Theory and it’s been disproven a bunch already. People dont think about consequences (generally) before committing a crime.