For me it feels like breaking up with someone after many years. At the same time, I feel a bit dirty mentioning the name in the post title.
Actually I feel excited, because Lemmy has sparked a new interest in news aggregators and the fediverse and I’m enjoying my time here a lot.
I agree, it feels a bit like the internet in the early days, where you can find mindblowing new things just around the corner with a single click
Exactly! And without being called names for asking questions or interacting with people.
Yup and no big corps were tracking us.
@mrmanager @Acetamide excited for this decentralization of user information! Is Lemmy.today accepting registrations?
Absolutely, I would be happy to get more users. It’s a decent server too with nice speed.
Fully agree, I’ve been TOO excited since I found out about Lemmy’s existence. I can’t wait to see how it progresses with so many people joining. :-)
Agreed! Reddit was just becoming a karma farming center. Honestly, it’s been nice to burn it all to the ground and start over
I joined Reddit during the digg exodus. Before digg I was into fark and before fark, something awful.
It’s good that things die. it’s where new mediums come from. It also keeps the power with the user. It’s an important part of the internet life cycle.
A little bit. What I hate is losing the communities related to my hobbies. Reddit is/was very very helpful for me. Finding new music, finding new games, discussing movies and TV, learning about weird movies or cult shows, sharing my stuff to people that find it cool… It was 11 years of that. I needed that site, so many very helpful posts. I hope whatever comes next is better. For now I’m here, waiting to see what happens.
I went from digg to Reddit during that mass exodus and will be doing the same from Reddit to Lemmy. It is a little bittersweet seeing what Reddit was 10+ years ago to what it’s become, but I’m excited for the future and to see what becomes of Lemmy, kbin, etc.
Yes. I loved Reddit for a LONG time. They started to crumble in my opinion when the added these Snooavatars, which later turned into a NFT scheme. I never bothered with these. The promise of the website was awesome though. Being able to follow interests and communities instead of people was a completely new concept, which I had never seen before. Now it feels like the corporate greed has finally completely taken over.
Time to jump ship.
It’s that exact reason why I could never get into twitter or Instagram beyond personal friends. I want to follow topics, not people.
I had a ton of subreddits curated on my homepage, a lot of which were rather niche. I’m not super optimistic that most of them will be replaced, which is sad.
I think it will hit harder when I want to search for something on google and have to avoid adding reddit onto the end.
I actually feel more relieved. It has become toxic and dominated by bots. As soon as a real person posts anything, it’s immediately down voted
I’m enjoying Lemmy much more. Reminds me of the internet of old.
Reddit was always at its best in the smaller communities that were focused on a more narrow interest. Eg. The ones dedicated to a particular TV show, a particular type of humour, a particular game, a particular fandom, etc.
I think it will take time for Lemmy to develop enough that those sorts of communities can succeed.
It’s interesting, too, to see how small the subreddits need to be to maintain that community feeling. I helped found a political subreddit 9yrs ago; a non-partisan US state news & discussion subreddit. Political communities tend to be pretty spicy for obvious reasons, but when we had like maybe less than 500 sub (so maybe like <100 actually active users), there was a nice sense of community, even though people of different political persuasions would argue and debate. I’d see people tend to have fairly civil discussions. They’d chit chat and joke around in less controversial threads. It wasn’t always rainbow and unicorns of course, but for the most part, the active users played nicely together. We rarely had to bring out formal moderation tools. A simple “Hey, you two, chill out,” was usually enough to settle things. And it was like that for a few years.
As the number of subscribers and active users increased over the years, that sense of community started getting away from us. There was a lot more dogpiling. A lot more incivility. A lot more of the typical rPolitics style low-effort comments. The older active users started dropping off. Reddit tends to lean left, so the left-leaning majority started drowning out the right-leaning users. And my state is solidly right-leaning these days. Not that our sub had to be representative of the state political demographics, of course.
Today, the sub is like under 7,000 users, which is still a smaller subreddit, relatively speaking, but any sense of community is long gone.
I’ll admit, we – and especially me as head mod for most of our existence – could’ve done better to tamp down on that stuff. But I also think that that kinda thing is a natural part of growth of a community. That the sense of community tends to disappear. People can’t individually recognize and emotionally connect with that many people. It’s so easy, especially on the Internet, to simply say something mean-spirited to someone and metaphorically walk away. They may never see or interact with that person again. And if they do, do they really remember who they are?
Obviously my experience is just anecdotal. But it still makes me wonder how Lemmy (and similar sites) will deal with that. How can we maintain a sense of community, while also wanting to allow people in and grow communities?
I think the lack of sense of community occurring from both the increased size of the group and how long it’s been around lead to folks taking it for granted as a resource rather than a personal space they’re invested and involved in.
I think the same thing happened to Reddit overall - it reached a mass of size and establishment whereby the owners/admins were disconnected to the personal, special aspect of it and took it and the people for granted.
I feel the same. Just releif. Since the redesign and official app, deep down I knew where it was heading. It’s different this time (vs voat) where there is an alternative that has the spirit of why we all enjoyed reddit to begin with and without the commercialism that reddit has become. It’s early, surely lots of challenges ahead for this idea but the decentralized nature I think will be very interesting and will allow for the more mainstream community to create a pleasant experience for those that wish it. Also, Lemmy is need of some technical polishing and ease of use, bug fixes, etc. Instances will also need funding by providing transparency and decent moderation. It’s like reddit but without trying to monetize your content. Lol
It’s all very exciting!
I hate reddit. But it feels like the library of Alexandria burning down (yea I know). All those google search results and educational subreddits that are shutting down forever, and because they are too small reddit won’t force open them again.
A lot are in the pushshift archive, but that cuts of at 2022. Also, it doesn’t include a lot of the smaller subreddits.
I have had my PC running 24/7 with multiple VPNs to avoid rate limits downloading as much as I can before the API dies, but with some blackouts moving forward a day I have already missed a few.
Like many others, I would often add “reddit” to the end of my searches to get better results, half the websites on web searches now are either AI generated, copies or are completely AD ridden websites that ask you to turn off your AD blocker.Reddit hasn’t really been the same for a long time anyways. I liked the feel of Reddit in the old days better, and this kind of has the same vibe
While I hope Lemmy/Kbin takes off (heck, I’d love early internet forums to come back in style) and kicks off a second internet renaissance, the imminent collapse of Reddit legit is giving me anxiety. Hope y’all don’t mind if I vent a bit.
Firstly, there are a lot of “niche” communities on Reddit, mostly dedicated to individual games and the like. The kind of thing where fanart, announcements and discussions happen. In the short term, I don’t see them surviving the collapse. And if they do, they’ll probably move to a not-great platform like Discord or whatever Facebook comes out with.
Secondly, with SEO optimized AI generated garbage topping search results, Reddit has become an important reference when looking for reviews and opinions on things. As well as that, it has become somewhat of an archive of internet culture in a way. With subreddits moving to black out permanently and a push for users shredding their own data, there’s a very real chance that all of this content will be lost forever.
Archival efforts are underway by many archival teams.
However you’re right, a lot of things will be lost forever. A lot of old viral reddit posts from 10+ years ago, that kind of thing will probably not make it out of this.
That being said, screw reddit and screw spez. They’re the ones doing this. The site will be un-moderateable anyway once 3rd party mod tools are banned, so it’s going to be barely usable anyway through their broken app.
In a broader sense this is just the way of the internet. Platforms rise to prominence, then slowly dwindle into irrelevance. It has happened many times before reddit and will happen many times again in the future. The amount of media lost in this exchange is monumental. So much of Web 1.0 and Web 2.0 is lost forever. It’s the transient nature of these kinds of spaces that makes them this way. For instance, archive team maintains a wiki index of all social media platforms that have ever gone down. You can see how much has already gone and you never even knew it was there to begin with.
… but that probably didn’t help with your anxiety 😅 things will be okay. Communities will survive so long as people remain interested enough in them to continue gathering and talking and sharing together. Have faith in the communities you care about, and if you’d like to try you can always help organize a transition to a new platform :)
Great post and I agree. Just roll with the inevitable cycle, keep contributing and just enjoy what is there for what it is in its time.
I personally exported the comments that I deleted, so they aren’t lost. I might put them online, for archive sake
I feel just a bit heartbroken but at the same time I really love the concept of lemmy.
I’m just a little afraid that lemmy is just a short-lived alternative and the people go back because not everything is working perfect right now.
That’s definitely a risk. The main way of avoiding that is to stay active :D
I guess I’m still in the denial phase. I haven’t technically left reddit yet. I guess during the blackout, then I’ll really know how I feel without it. I’ll definitely have to leave once RIF stops working.
I’m just having a really hard time getting used to kbin and Lemmy.
Same feeling I guess. Created the Lemmy.ml account few days ago and installed Jerboa, this is my first post. Still haven’t done any cancelation of my old reddit, waiting for my RelayForReddit to stop working properly… My 99% fruition of reddit is through the 3p app sigh.
I know the feeling. I’ve been using Apollo since the beta and at the end of the month it’s just going to be gone. An app made with care and attention for years, just deleted because it has now served its purpose and it now gets in the way of the IPO. I won’t be going back.
I don’t know if the fediverse is the answer but it feels like a good place to start.
Yes, I’m really upset about it. It feels like i’ve had so much taken away from me over my life and I was always willing to accept it and move on, but to see something so simple and innocent get taken away seems just so pointless and depressing. Like why am I not allowed to just have my little shitposting community? is it too much that I get to smile without some capitalist coke rat getting a payday? I hate this so much and there is nothing I can do about it. I will mourn for awhile, until I cant even remember why im upset anymore, and when I wake up tommorrow the world will be just a little bit worse. it always is.
12 years of reddit. It will take some time to adjust but I also switched from google to duckduckgo years ago after decades of google, and then too never looked back. Lemmy does need a LOT of work, still, but so did reddit in the early days…
To those working on Lemmy, please don’t fuck this up for us. Don’t be a spez.
Im just mad 4chan survived reddit. And will probably miss some of the smaller communitys i was active in.
4chan should survive IMO. As long as there is a city, there needs to be a sewer. And from time to time, it can be pretty funny to poke your head in the sewer and see what the morlocks are up to.
I definitely agree, but it cost me 20€ lol
Lmao you lost a bet? What odds did you take?
I and one of my friends that was(or is) a 4chan fan made a bet wich website will go down first, with current pacing its definitely reddit, 4chan is doing totally fine. We bet for 20€ each.
Honestly at 1:1 odds I’d probably have taken that bet (betting that Reddit would fail first). I’ve loved Reddit, but it has always been more unstable simply because it has more users and relies on outside funding.
And to be fair, Reddit will probably continue to exist. It’ll just be an empty shell of a site. The big problem with online spaces is that when people get fed up and leave, the only people who have a voice on that site are the ones who didn’t leave. Within a year, I imagine the prevailing opinion among “Redditors” will be that this protest/exodus was stupid and accomplished nothing. Because everyone who disagrees with that viewpoint will have left.
Continues to exit, like digg…
And the people still left there will contribute exactly nothing, social media has a 90 9 1 distribution, 90 just lurk 9 vote/comment 1 makes content, and the 1 from reddit is almost exclusively third party users, also the mods already leave, you know… Those people that moderate reddit for free…
If this decision isn’t reversed reddit is basically dead.
Yeah I agree. It all depends on how you define dead.
