Proton simply does not deliver a meaningfully substandard experience. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s worse. I’d bet the majority of steam deck users don’t even know what it is.
Most games take a slight performance hit, so small you won’t notice unless you’re watching the numbers. Some games even have better performance on proton than native windows.
So, if you’re really dedicated about playing a game with anticheat that doesn’t natively support Linux, and even dual booting isn’t an option, virtual machines are. In particular, Linux has a feature neither MacOS nor Windows share called KVM, which essentially lets you loan physical components to the VM, giving it full use of them and cutting them off from the host PC. This lets VMs running on Linux compete on a level equivalent to a similar OS, natively installed on the same hardware, and absolutely smokes the benchmarks of Windows- and MacOS-hosted VMs.
And they can be a pain to set up, but once you get one up and running, there are exactly 3 games on that list that you can’t get up and running, Valorant, CS:GO(ESEA) and CS:GO(Faceit). The latter two of which were recently bought out with Saudi blood money, and the former demands a control freak level of access over your PC to even run.
It is personal opinions, not compatibility, that keeps me from playing fortnite (Tim Sweeney will never be forgiven for doing his hardest to kill the Unreal series, and fortnite skins being a source of modern childhood bullying is despicable) with one friendship group and destiny 2 (might actually be a good game if it wasn’t designed to be a black hole of money and time that deletes its own back-catalogue of content regularly, Sony pls fire Bungie’s incompetent management already) with the another.
Just skip over the part where it’s 3 percent of games that don’t work, not 40.
Also, please explain how your response makes sense in this conversation:
Person: “Linux gaming has gotten really good lately”
You: “Try it without proton”
(This implies you think there’s something wrong with games running on proton even if they’re working)
Me: “Why, proton works?”
You: “It’s a substandard experience”
Me: “There’s a few games it doesn’t run, but for the ones it does how is it substandard?”
You: “Games don’t run” (this doesn’t address your issues with proton, the games that do run only do so because of proton, without it and wine it’d be a million times worse)
Basically every response of yours seems like you’re bitter people like something you don’t. Literally every gamer acknowledges anticheat is a problem still, there’s no point in discussing it here. Nobody’s trying to force you to switch to Linux.
If you want to actually discuss the technical merits and downsides of proton, wine, dxvk, etc. I’m happy to, but if you’re just going to be bitter about people enjoying things, please seek out a therapist.
Proton simply does not deliver a meaningfully substandard experience. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s worse. I’d bet the majority of steam deck users don’t even know what it is.
Most games take a slight performance hit, so small you won’t notice unless you’re watching the numbers. Some games even have better performance on proton than native windows.
Why do you think it’s substandard?
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So, if you’re really dedicated about playing a game with anticheat that doesn’t natively support Linux, and even dual booting isn’t an option, virtual machines are. In particular, Linux has a feature neither MacOS nor Windows share called KVM, which essentially lets you loan physical components to the VM, giving it full use of them and cutting them off from the host PC. This lets VMs running on Linux compete on a level equivalent to a similar OS, natively installed on the same hardware, and absolutely smokes the benchmarks of Windows- and MacOS-hosted VMs.
And they can be a pain to set up, but once you get one up and running, there are exactly 3 games on that list that you can’t get up and running, Valorant, CS:GO(ESEA) and CS:GO(Faceit). The latter two of which were recently bought out with Saudi blood money, and the former demands a control freak level of access over your PC to even run.
It is personal opinions, not compatibility, that keeps me from playing fortnite (Tim Sweeney will never be forgiven for doing his hardest to kill the Unreal series, and fortnite skins being a source of modern childhood bullying is despicable) with one friendship group and destiny 2 (might actually be a good game if it wasn’t designed to be a black hole of money and time that deletes its own back-catalogue of content regularly, Sony pls fire Bungie’s incompetent management already) with the another.
Cool, while you’re doing THAT I’ll be playing the games.
Oh wow, a nice cherry picked list that goes over the issue I said still needs to be fixed.
Meanwhile let’s compare what people are actually playing. Of the top 1000 games on steam, 34 don’t work.
Now how about all of steam? Oh, looks like it keeps the same rate.
Windows is similar, it’s just old games you’ll run into issues with, which incidentally often work better on proton.
The issue that needs to be fixed is the entire problem. Or did you skip over the first part of the thread?
Just skip over the part where it’s 3 percent of games that don’t work, not 40.
Also, please explain how your response makes sense in this conversation:
Person: “Linux gaming has gotten really good lately”
You: “Try it without proton” (This implies you think there’s something wrong with games running on proton even if they’re working)
Me: “Why, proton works?”
You: “It’s a substandard experience”
Me: “There’s a few games it doesn’t run, but for the ones it does how is it substandard?”
You: “Games don’t run” (this doesn’t address your issues with proton, the games that do run only do so because of proton, without it and wine it’d be a million times worse)
Basically every response of yours seems like you’re bitter people like something you don’t. Literally every gamer acknowledges anticheat is a problem still, there’s no point in discussing it here. Nobody’s trying to force you to switch to Linux.
If you want to actually discuss the technical merits and downsides of proton, wine, dxvk, etc. I’m happy to, but if you’re just going to be bitter about people enjoying things, please seek out a therapist.
2018 called, they want their games back.
Yeah, they’re benchmarks from a while ago.
This was already the case in 2018, it certainly hasn’t gotten worse.