What if Meta’s hidden objective behind the Threads-to-Mastodon initiative is a play on app.net? And, what if threads.net is a measured step towards what could be the greatest pivot in all of tech?

  • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Sigh…

    No. We’ll just make a new mastodon/ lemmy-verse without them. Its easy enough. At a certain point the world needs to understand that its these companies, not the format, we’re avoiding.

    • rglullis@communick.news
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      we’re avoiding

      “We” are a minority share of the market and no one really cares about “us”. “We” are irrelevant and we will keep being irrelevant unless we start actual and effective evangelizing for an open web.

      This is not just about “avoiding”, it’s about fighting for culture change.

        • umbrella@lemmy.ml
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          10 months ago

          nah im not.

          we cant expect things to get better if we dont help heal the people in a way we can.

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            There’s nothing wrong with the people who use it. It’s their choice. I just don’t want that content in my space.

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              The only space that is truly “yours” in the Fediverse is the one concerning your feed and the data you create.

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                It’s my instance and the ones it federates with.

                I can move instance or host my own if I don’t agree with my current ones choices.

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                  Do you treat the people on the same instance as you as “taking your space”? Wouldn’t it better to think of it as shared, which means that it is not really yours or anyone else’s?

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          Who is “they”? Your family? School/Work colleagues? People you share interests and that you know in meatspace?

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        I’m fine with that personally. I’d much rather have a small social network containing people who are like me (at least in some respects) than a huge one filled with people I hate and garbage AI content.

        • Hello Hotel@lemmy.world
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          Lemmy (heck, even reddit) is great example of why your and their goals arent mutually exclusive. If lemmy blows up, some places will stay small, some places will look like it does on bigger social media sites. I prefer slow and steady growth but an explosion of growth isnt the worst thing.

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            No but I don’t care about seeing them on social media. I don’t desire that at all, if I am gonna keep in touch with someone it will be in person or through direct messages.

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              You don’t need to see them just because the same network as you. But they need to be here if we want corporate social media to die.

          • BluesF@lemmy.world
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            10 months ago

            Not necessarily, but Facebook certainly makes it easy to 😉 more importantly I’m not at all interested in being connected via social media with any of those people, aside I suppose from “normies” because that could really be anyone, but I’m not that bothered.

    • MisterD@lemmy.ca
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      Won’t matter if they can just repeat the same trick. We have to do something… now.

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        We can’t really do anything. We’re like less than 1% of the market and the rest don’t care.

        Just keep them defederated and there’s not a lot they can do.

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        You are here, you are doing something. If they start with the bullshit we defederate them. (Or build new tech to keep corp influence in check, whatever we want.)

        Point is: at some point me getting updates from Aunt Ethel matters a lot less to me than controlling my privacy and living my life without being advertised to every second.