• Stamets@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    There isn’t a single line in your comment that is either unique to Lemmy or not based off of utter nonsense/an absolute lie.

    So many problems with your comment. First things first, Lemmy is not a single website like you’re acting like it is. There are different websites with different vibes. You’re painting it all with the same brush like lemmy.ml isn’t WILDLY different than lemmy.world that isn’t wildly different from lemm.ee that isn’t different from startrek.website. That being said lets break this down.

    The userbase here is not really diverse in itself, so the whole platform gets this large echo chamber vibe. And with “not diverse” I don’t mean hostile or anything, just very homogeneous.

    So, the internet? Every website has it’s own niche and people stick to it. This isn’t a surprise.

    Overwhelmingly left and far left on the political spectrum, embracing all things LGBT+, high nerd & tech factor; and if you don’t belong to or identify with either of those factions, you get downvoted to oblivion

    Yeah… the line “embracing all things LGBT+” makes me feel really weird here. Especially when you then immediately say “if you don’t belong to or identify with either of those factions”. How is it being part of a faction to not discriminate against people, exactly? How is it being part of a faction to accept people for who they are, exactly? How is it being part of a faction to be kind to people instead of judging, exactly? Are you sure that you’re not getting downvoted because you’re a bigot?

    and worse yet, mod removed and banned for no factual reason.

    Well, first off that again isn’t unique to Lemmy but let’s check the modlog shall we? First off, you were never banned so you can quit whining about something that literally never happened. You have had two comments removed. The first one, true. Was removed for no reason. But you commented it to lemmy.ml which is a known communist instance that aggressively supports China. You were critical of China. That’s why you had your comment removed. Not factual and indeed bullshit but it was one comment and from one community that is known to be a problem. The rest of Lemmy does not share that. But lets check your other comment shall we?

    You had this comment removed because it is the exact same attack that’s used against people who are trans. While the context of this comment shows you were talking about Hexbear and being dicks, that behavior isn’t remotely appropriate on lemmy.blahaj.zone which is known for being very protective of trans folks. You then used an argument suggesting that certain people were trolling with pronouns. Definitely possible as I’ve seen it on here and been stalked by one such pathetic loser but you’re still using that argument as a whole on a trans-protective instance. You shouldn’t be surprised that the behavior thrown against them is removed if they see it, whether it’s being used against them or against trolls. The behavior is still nasty and against instance rules.

    What made reddit strong as a platform was that you had the right kind of diversity and a big enough userbase to not spiral out of control, unless the top management fucked up.

    What in the kentucky fried fuck are you talking about? Did you not see the endless trolling and hate that Reddit throws against anyone for any reason? The absurd level of dogpiling? The fact that moderators controlled EVERYTHING so if you were banned from one you were banned from all subreddits they were in some slight control of (this is literally impossible to do on Lemmy, for the record)? You keep acting like Reddit is just one large homogenous website and it isn’t. It’s split into countless subreddits and each one of those has their own individual userbase and will follow you across reddit no matter where you go. What your suggesting is just simply not true and never has been.

    On Lemmy, instance admins are (or become) often the worst offenders, making any interactions with users on their instance tiresome, unless you regurgitate the same stuff that has been said there over and over and over again.

    Spez banned people for saying fuck Spez. He edited peoples comments when they were critical of him. They shadowbanned people so they didn’t even know they couldn’t interact with the site. They outright banned entire communities. They let moderators sit on communities and do nothing other than force it to go in one specific way. /r/WorldNews actively removed comments critical of things that they’re against and it applies to /r/The_Donald and /r/Politics and /r/Canada and everywhere else.

    Your entire comment is nonsensical and based off of a completely failed understanding of what Lemmy, Reddit and the internet is.

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      10 months ago

      So, the internet? Every website has it’s own niche and people stick to it. This isn’t a surprise.

      It’s a “surprise” in the sense that Lemmy wanted to do it different and better. It did in some ways, but failed in many others.

      How is it being part of a faction to not discriminate against people, exactly? How is it being part of a faction to accept people for who they are, exactly? How is it being part of a faction to be kind to people instead of judging, exactly? Are you sure that you’re not getting downvoted because you’re a bigot?

      No, you got that wrong. I never advocated against LGBT+, I’m a “live and let live” kinda guy. I am a straight white male though, so not part of any demographic in need of safe spaces, so it is not exactly easy to put myself into the shoes of people who need protection. Not saying I don’t emphasize, merely that I’m not part of it. I’m also politically liberal and think most left values are noble thoughts, but lack practical availability.

      First off, you were never banned so you can quit whining about something that literally never happened.

      This is not my main account.

      Not factual and indeed bullshit but it was one comment and from one community that is known to be a problem.

      Well, the problem here is that worldnews is one of my key area of interests, and that community is about 8x as big as the next larger one on lemmy.world, which is not nearly as active. Which highlights my issue above with the lacking diversity.

      […] that behavior isn’t remotely appropriate on lemmy.blahaj.zone which is known for being very protective of trans folks. […]

      Fair, I get the point. Didn’t mean to insult, just had observed quite a bit of trolling. Also had no idea what blahaj is really about, not an instance I interact with frequently.

      Did you not see the endless trolling and hate that Reddit throws against anyone for any reason?

      Sure happened in the mainstream subs, I just stayed the heck away from there. Here I have to engage with mainstream communities since all the small niche ones except for anything linux and star trek are very much dead; so as a result I see more trolling and shit-talking here than I was used to on my curated reddit frontpage.

      Spez banned people for saying fuck Spez. He edited peoples comments when they were critical of him. They shadowbanned people so they didn’t even know they couldn’t interact with the site. They outright banned entire communities. They let moderators sit on communities and do nothing other than force it to go in one specific way. /r/WorldNews actively removed comments critical of things that they’re against and it applies to /r/The_Donald and /r/Politics and /r/Canada and everywhere else.

      Fully agree, Spez was a dick. However on Lemmy you are dealing not with one isolated dick in the kingdom, but rather with a bunch of dicks over a multitude of serfdoms across the realm. Neither one feels great.

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      10 months ago

      Guy. You really need to compare yourself in the mirror with what that other guy already said. It’s like you can’t see yourself at all.