• eran_morad@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    64
    arrow-down
    11
    ·
    10 months ago

    I get it. He’s old, he’s on the “wrong side” of Israel/Palestine, etc. Doesn’t fucking matter. It’s a binary choice, you got Brandon or you got trump. And if you can’t accept that stark reality, you’re probably too stupid to impose your opinion on others.

    • lingh0e@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      45
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      10 months ago

      Know who else is on the wrong side of the Israel/Palestine conflict? No matter who wins, Palestinians lose, because a Trump administration will absolutely let the IDF go gloves off.

      • eran_morad@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        10 months ago

        The real problem here is that the majority of voting Americans have been manipulated by narrow interests to support the wrong side. Fucking idiots and their fairy tales.

        • go_go_gadget@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          9
          ·
          edit-2
          10 months ago

          The real real problem is the millions of people who voted for Joe Biden in the 2020 primaries forcing us all into this situation today. Fuck those people.

          • eran_morad@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            4
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            10 months ago

            You gotta be dumber than dogshit if you think any prez from either party wouldn’t do exactly as Brandon is doing. Why the fuck do you think he’s doing this? hint: it’s because he’d lose more votes if he didn’t support Israel.

        • lingh0e@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          9
          ·
          10 months ago

          Trump will enter such a situation because he wants to build a resort somewhere for money laundering purposes, not because he is beholden to any specific faith or idealogy.

        • DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          7
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          10 months ago

          Trump is literally out there quoting Hitler. He is not a Zionist, not even in the Christian Nationalist “we need Israel to exist to start the Rapture” kind of Zionist.

    • chitak166@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      10 months ago

      It does matter, though.

      That’s what democrats still haven’t realized.

      Maybe a 2nd trump presidency will teach them.

      • candybrie@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        10 months ago

        That’s not the lesson learned by Trump winning. The learned lesson would be Joe Biden isn’t enough like Trump and the democrats need to be further right to win.

        • chitak166@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          10 months ago

          So they can recruit more conservatives?

          What makes you think a significant number of people who voted for Trump will ever consider voting for a democrat?

          • candybrie@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            10 months ago

            I don’t think that. But that’s the lesson that gets learned. Why did Biden get the nomination? Because he was “electable.” What did primary voters decide electable meant? The most milquetoast and “center” candidate of the bunch. Trump winning doesn’t push Democrats to be progressive or bold. It pushes them away from that. Only when they feel they have huge majorities do they do anything verging on progressive.

            • chitak166@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              10 months ago

              It pushes them away from that.

              All it did was cause them to run the exact same candidate that lost to Trump but this time with a penis.