Conservatives thrust the House back into chaos on Wednesday, grinding business to a halt in protest of the spending deal Speaker Mike Johnson struck with Democrats to avert a government shutdown and leaving the funding package in limbo.

A dozen hard-line Republicans defected from the party line to tank a routine procedural measure, blocking consideration of a pair of G.O.P. bills in what amounted to a warning shot by members of the ultraconservative Freedom Caucus that they would not stand for the agreement. As the measure failed, members of the group could be seen in animated discussion with Mr. Johnson and his deputies on the House floor.

The Republican revolt underscored Mr. Johnson’s predicament in trying to steer the spending deal through the closely divided House, where it has enraged a sizable bloc of Republicans, while keeping his grip on his job. The upheaval came as it was becoming clear that Congress would most likely have to resort to yet another short-term spending patch — something Mr. Johnson had previously ruled out — to buy time to push a bipartisan deal to fund the government.

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  • ferralcat@monyet.cc
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    Literally all he has to do is work with democrats to end all of this. Just actually work with them on something and the freedom caucus goes away.

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      Here’s why gerrymandering is so bad. Say you live in a district that is 90% Red. The only people who are interested in the primaries are the true diehard MAGoos. They don’t want to hear the words ‘compromise’ or ‘common sense.’ The most extreme candidate is the one who will win. So there’s no upside for co-operating with the Dems.

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        The upside is that you served your one term with dignity and got something done.

        The fact that everyone thinks political action should be driven by reelection prospects and seems perfectly fine with the ill motivation and contempt for the people that goes with is a major fucking problem.

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          I feel like I could see that working for local positions, but you want your federal representatives to have experience governing, right? Like, work their way up, learning as they go? That means this isn’t a fun hobby for them, it’s a job. Are you telling these folks to spend years/decades building up their political career just to kamikaze it all for a single two year term (6 Senate unless they’re recalled)? And if so, where should a person flame-out? Should they go down swinging on city council, or wait until they’re a state senator, or wait until they’re in US Congress etc.?

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      Thats what Kevin McCarthy did and he got ousted. Much as it would solve things to actually be the House leader and not just the leader of two minority factions that don’t like each other, the House was set up such that the majority party runs things alone.

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        Donald Trump’s lawyers are saying that he would be justified in assassinating Americans. The GOP supports him.

        Joe Biden is pardoning people who were arrested for smoking pot.

        Both sides are not the same.

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          This is not about supporting one party or another. This is about the two parties working together and some politicians helping Americans over their careers. Working with Democrats will be seen as treason by republican base and helping Republicans avoid chaos won’t move any voters to Democrats. When shut-down happens they can just blame one another which is the best scenario for both parties.

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            When did the Dems ever shut down the government? It takes two people to have an agreement, and only one to start a fight.

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              In 1980 but that’s not the point. I’m not arguing who’s right or wrong here. I’m saying that neither party will benefit from compromising. The bases are to entrenched and politicians are not willing to sacrifice their careers over this. If you disagree I happy to hear you out but so far you’re arguing against something I didn’t say.

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                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_United_States_federal_government_shutdown#:~:text=On May 1%2C 1980%2C five days after the,agency due to a lapse in appropriations.

                I’d never heard of the 1980 Government shutdown. According to this article, it was due to an interpretation of an obscure law, and only affected 1600 employees at the FCC.

                And again, you’re doing a backdoor defense of the GOP.

                They voted for the laws and are only shutting the government down to try and make Biden look bad. I could cite dozens of times the Dems compromised with the GOP and also cite dozens of times the GOP blocked needed actions for political gain.

                Trump lost. He couldn’t convince the lickspittle Mike Pence to break the law, so Donnie tried to have a mob take over the Capitol. Now the GOP is running a traitor for President. One side is the party of treason. Stop pretending.

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                  It’s like you read whatever you want to read, right? No matter what I say you will always see the same comment. I think it’s time to get out. Internet broke you a bit.

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                    So, you can’t actually refute the facts. You claim that ‘both sides’ were doing something, and when I showed that wasn’t the case, it’s suddenly me misunderstanding you. And spare me the false sympathy. If you actually thought I was spneding too much time on the web you wouldn’t have reponded in the first place.