This is an article written by telegram’s founder and CEO Pavel Durov in 2019 on “Why whatsapp will never be secure”. Your thoughts?

  • Dehydrated@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Both WhatsApp and Telegram suck. Just like any other messenger that’s either proprietary or not end to end encrypted. Signal is clearly the best choice.

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      10 months ago

      Signal is not the best choice, it’s just a somewhat aceptable middle ground. I prefer something that doesn’t require a phone number and something you can self-host, like XMPP.

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        10 months ago

        You mean that XMPP protocol which is not encrypted by default? Oh yes you mean that.

        XMPP would need to be redesigned from ground up as a secure and private messaging protocol to be a valid choice.

        XMPP has it advantages but to many cry out that it is the savior when it is not. We need something better.

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          10 months ago

          The major clients now do have OMEMO. Yea, I agree it’s flawed but that’s so far it’s the one I settled on. Do you know other, more refined selfhostable solutions? I am now looking for development there but doubt I’d get few people that I already got there to switch again.

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            10 months ago

            Not aware that there is a modern decentralized secure and private chat protocol. Sadly. I also am not aware of any developmenta of something like that, so XMPP is the best we got (for decentralized open widly supported protocols)

            I know that a lot of clients do encryption of the message body by default, but it still leaves a lot of stuff in plain text (afaik).