Geneva - The Israeli army introduced groups of Israeli civilians into detention centres and prisons holding Palestinian prisoners and detainees from the Gaza Strip, permitting the civilians to witness torture crimes against the detainees, with many allowed to film them on their own phones.
The released detainees told Euro-Med Monitor that the Israeli soldiers had purposefully presented them before Israeli civilians, falsely claiming that they were fighters affiliated with Palestinian armed factions and that they had taken part in the 7 October attack on Israeli towns on Gaza Strip borders.
According to testimony received by Euro-Med Monitor, groups of ten to twenty Israeli civilians at a time were permitted to watch and laughingly film Palestinian prisoners and detainees in their underwear while Israeli army soldiers subjected them to physical abuse, including beating them with metal batons, electric sticks, and pouring hot water on their heads. The detainees were also verbally abused.
Palestinian Omar Abu Mudallala, 43, told the Euro-Med Monitor team: “I was arrested at the checkpoint set up near the Kuwait roundabout, which separates Gaza City from the central region, as part of the Israeli random arrest campaigns. I was subjected to all types of torture and abuse for approximately 52 days,” pointing out that Israeli soldiers “brought Israeli civilians to watch our nude torture.”
Abu Mudallala added: “The Israeli army brought a number of Israeli civilians into our detention centres while beating us and telling them, ‘These are Hamas terrorists who killed you and raped your women on 7 October,’ while the Israeli civilians were filming us being beaten, abused, and tortured while making fun of us.”
Abu Mudallalasaid that “one of the detainees who speaks Hebrew tried to explain to the Israeli civilians that we are civilians and we had nothing to do with any military activities, but that also did not help. However, he was subjected to severe psychological and physical torture. It was really shameful to bring Israeli citizens to record our torture for being allegedly involved in killing and rape incidents.”
Jesus fucking Christ.
Hmmm, looks like Biden needs to tell them to stop being mean again.
He’s gonna sprain his finger wagging it so hard.
He’s too busy posting NFL memes trying to get votes for the election later this year
This speaks to the inescapable brutality at the heart of all humans.
Speak for yourself. Some people find violence and torture repugnant.
My point is the irony of a culture who bases their entire national identity on previous victimhood and centuries of oppression is now frolicking in the blood and screams of others.
Very, very human, and awful.
Yeah well when you hold fast to a religion that encourages mindless obedience, murder and violence, you reap what you sow. Or any other deadly fantasy.
So… pretty much any religion?
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Buddhism wants to have a word with you.
Buddhism is no better, as practiced. I can give you the long version if you want.
I’d love to get the long version, because from what I’ve gathered so far Buddhism doesn’t appear to be built around aggregation and (ab)use of power.
I may be completely off though and would like to have additional information!
Contemporary example: Buddhist Inspired Genocide
And you can also check Wikipedia:
Buddhist scripture condemns violence in every form. Ahimsa, a term meaning “not to injure”, is a primary virtue in Buddhism. However, Buddhists have historically used scriptures to justify violence or form exceptions to commit violence for various reasons.
There may be individuals whose personal interpretation of Buddhism leads them to avoid violence, but organized religion as a whole is a social system where a hierarchy struggles to maintain ideological control over their followers on the basis of faith, which is a magnificent tool for anyone who wants to get others to justify heinous crimes against their out-group, and is routinely used that way in all major religions.
Thank you for the additional info.
I think I just wanted to believe there’s at least one religion that leads to good deeds and good deeds only. You may call me naive.
Myanmar say hello
Perhaps not every religion, but every religion that has passed the historical test of getting and maintaining millions of followers through history.
Me too. But the reason we do is only circumstantial. Any and all humans are capable of such actions under the right circumstances.
Using a torture camp as an attraction park for civilians is some shit I thought I would only read in fiction books like Hunger Games.
As far as I am aware, while regular civilians in Germany aided the Nazis in rounding up Jews, they didn’t typically participate in the concentration camps.
This is quite different indeed.
Perhaps the Israelis can buy VIP passes like Disneyland.
How normalized does hatred have to be for anyone to think that this defense isn’t inherently despicable:
…falsity of the Israeli army’s claim that the Palestinian civilians subjected to torture in the presence of Israeli civilians were fighters involved in the October 7 attack
Hamas prisoners or not this is pure, unfettered zealotry and it’s embarrassing that these soldiers thought this would be a credible justification.
Edit: welp I did some digging and I don’t know what to believe now:
https://unwatch.org/un-human-rights-office-amplifies-blood-libel-by-terrorist-sympathizers/
Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor’s leadership routinely posts antisemitic and pro-Hamas content online.
The chairman of Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor’s Board is none other than Richard Falk—the former UN Special Rapporteur on Palestine who has hailed Hamas’ “spirit of resistance,” justified Palestinian violence, and claimed that Hamas aims for “long-term peaceful co-existence.” While he was Special Rapporteur, Falk was at the center of multiple controversies that led to continuous calls for his resignation by the U.S., UK, Canada, Australia, and others. According to the U.S. State Department, this was because of his “despicable and deeply offensive comments, particularly his anti-Semitic blog postings, his endorsement of 9/11 conspiracy theories, and his deplorable statements with regard to the terrorist attacks in Boston.” Falk had first called the Boston bombing a false flag and then justified it as a form of “resistance” that was “bound” to result from U.S. “military undertakings.” Even Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon had to come out several times to publicly denounce Falk’s statements. Falk’s antisemitism has even gotten him fired from a Human Rights Watch committee.
UNWatch is a literal Zionist psyop calling UNRWA Hamas…
The fact that you’re quoting them to “debunk” anything proves that Euro-Med-Monitor is legit. Just go to their front page and scroll to the bottom https://unwatch.org/
UN Watch stands at the forefront in combating racism, antisemitism, and anti-Israel prejudice at the UN, taking the offensive against dictatorships and double standards.
Jesus Fucking Christ mbfc. Not a great look saying there credible https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/un-watch/
Yo wtf that’s actually insane. That’s basically full proof that MBFC is ran by a Zionist
Sure, I definitely see that they’re biased towards Pro-Israeli and their founder was Chairman of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations. I’m not going to stop looking until I find something conclusive, because of how repulsive these reported actions are. There’s a lot of propaganda out there, though.
How “conclusive” do you want to get?
Some more UNWatch propaganda screenshots:
Executive Director of UNRWA “Hill Neuer” spreading propaganda and highlighting it on his site:
Editing pictures of Hamas in front of an UNRWA building:
I do not support the brutal actions of the IDF. But this particular story smells funny to me.
What possible motive would the Israelis have to seed evidence of their own crimes?
Videos of this held by civilians are at high risk of being leaked or hacked off phones by a technically competent opponent like Iran. That could only possibly add pressure to the US to rein in their wayward ally.
Maybe my instinct is off, that’s totally possible, but this seems like all risk and no reward. I’m waiting for more proof or corroboration before I accept this.
Sounds like you haven’t been paying attention to this genodide.
In decemeber they marched groups of Palestinians around in their underwear to parade them off
They share videos of them openly destroying Palestinian peoples property
They beat and torture prisoners and civilains
They are very open about showing this to the world.
Public humiliation, yes. Dehumanization efforts, yes. Publicly deniable torture of prisoners, seems very likely. Official distribution of graphic violence, we’ve seen that.
But creating wide spread video evidence of tortured prosoners and leaving it amongst random civilians where they have no control over it? That just doesn’t seem like the same thing.
Maybe the videos will surface and I’ll be proved wrong.
What control do you think they had over a telegram channel anyone could join?
They controlled the channel didn’t they? It was the IDF publishing their killings. If there was something especially incriminating they could just not publish it.
It’s just another step on the ladder. They’re testing how far they can go with the genocide without anybody relevant complaining.
There have been loads of videos of atrocities uploaded to the internet where IDF soldiers gleefully record themselves. They are supremacists, and they do not see anything wrong with their actions. Supremacy is baked into Zionism. They literally think they’re cleansing the land of vermin.
You don’t think the IDF which dresses up in dinosaur costumes to fire mortal shells into Gaza would do this?
They believe they are fully invincible from any reprecussions from the West. And so far they have been proven right.
The Era Of War Crime Influencers is a good video on this.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
The IDF is committing war-crimes on Tik-Tok as if it’s a funny joke.
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Mortal shells?
Rockets leave a big trail of fire behind them. They are usually more precise.
Mortars are like long range grenade-bullets. hence the big “gun” shooting them.
Ha ha ha, haven’t been watching the non-j-post news lately?
Funny thing about war reporting, you cant really trust any news from any side. Unless you are there you wont really know, treat all news as propaganda.
Ps fucking love all the downvotes that dont do shit :)
Funny thing about war reporting, it’s done by international news agencies and covered by multiple sides along with graphic video evidence - so you can trust a lot that is mass verified.
Yeah you are right. Its probably all true.
Unless you are there you wont really know
I disagree, I think that journalists can get accurate reporting out of war zones. With some critical reasoning and wide reading an accurate enough - if not complete - picture is possible.
That’s why Israel has been actively targeting journalists in the war zone.
Before someone comes in to say “Israel has been letting western news reporters in”, let’s clarify something.
They have been actively targeting journalists reporting the Palestinian perspective.
Western news reporters from places like CNN or BBC are provided access to the war zone through Israel, and Israel reserves the right to screen what they report on. It is heavily whitewashed.
Well when i was deployed my parents read and heared (tv, paper) things and eventually asked me about it and i was like, what?? Most of it was bull. Some where sort of correct but moslty it was horseshit or twisted.
moslty it was horseshit
Yeah, that seems about right. I agree that treating all news as propaganda is good advice, and there’s a certain resolution of detail that we’ll probably not be able to get right for a while if ever.
But I think it’s dangerous to dismiss the possiblity of getting to the truth at all.
That is all, just be wary and read everything with caution. Dont need to dismiss everything but just be wary.
The next Hamas propaganda piece.
All those stupid Human Rights Watch organizations out there spreading Khamass propaganda smh
We should trust our news to come from reliable sources like the Israeli military, which has given us great pieces like the 40 beheaded babies, raped women and hospital terrorist command centres. Their information is always backed by great evidence that they just can’t show you.
Here’s their wikipedia page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro-Mediterranean_Human_Rights_Monitor
Founder and chairman is Ramy Abdu:
Ramy Abdu (Arabic: رامي عبده) (or Ramy Abdo) is a Palestinian financial expert, assistant professor of Law and Finance, and human rights advocate who was born in the Gaza Strip. He is the founder and chairman of the Euro-Mediterranean Human Rights Monitor … Abdu was the assistant director and Palestine Office Manager for Council for European Palestinian Relations, an organisation described by The Independent as "a Belgian non-profit organisation that lobbies on behalf of the Hamas-led Gaza Government
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramy_Abdu
Not that this means the story isn’t true obviously, but the source isn’t exactly unbiased.
Suddenly when you can’t link MBFC because it doesn’t work this time you start linking Wikipedia shit.
Zionists and trying to question the source on every single anti-israel post name a better combo
I don’t care what an IDF soldier editing wikipedia wrote using quotes from a Zionist newspaper.
Also, depending on who you ask, “lobbying on behalf of the Hamas-controlled government” can mean basically any support for Palestinians, including any criticism of the Israeli government’s atrocities.
Again I don’t understand at all how they actually rank anything kn the mbfc.
Say almost nothing then bam, mixed for questionable sources but never mentioned that until saying mixed.
And used extremely biased sources for why it is bad
Is the Independent a Zionist newspaper?
described by The Independent as "a Belgian non-profit organisation that lobbies on behalf of the Hamas-led Gaza Government
Yes
Is this the kind of headline you would read in a Zionist newspaper?
Maybe you can go onto Wikipedia and edit the quote out if you’re claiming The Independent didn’t say it.
You can find Times Of Israel writing a “positive” article about Palestinians once a while too. Doesn’t undo them repeating debunked IDF lies in multiple articles even after it has been debunked.
