Russia has launched fresh strikes on critical infrastructure - with Kyiv residents told to cut energy consumption every night for the rest of 2024. Meanwhile, Western officials reportedly fear a major Russian advance - amid concerns Vladimir Putin could launch an attempt to seize Kharkiv.
-“Give me your home.”
“Wtf, no!”
-“Well then I’ll kill you for it then”
Some random observer: “I wish they’d negotiated and just given the guy half of their home, then we’d not be in this situation…”
Is there an adult around that could help you ?
Is that really the best response you can think of?
Why would I give you my best ?
You ridiculed my wish for peace, because you are probably a 15 year old boy who still thinks of the world in terms of goodies and baddies.
You’re excited by war, because you think it’s like on TV and have trouble thinking beyond the rudimentary concepts of good and evil.
The world is not like that, but as you’ve demonstrated, it’s not something you are ready to discuss.
Do you think a negotiation would guarantee peace? Russia has shown that any peace is temporary and they’ll continue whenever they like. Russia already invaded and seized Ukrainian territory once. The world didn’t take a harsh response, and here we are, with Russia invading and trying to seize Ukrainian territory once more.
What would be so different this time to stop Russia from going after Ukraine once more? At some point you have to dig in your heels. It’s a paradox of peace – you cannot have a peaceful society unless you are willing to fight to defend it.
Youre wrong on all counts there, but most importantly to the actual topic of discussion, a negotiated settlement in which the aggressor is just given some of the territory they are attempting to conquer (which is exactly what a negotiated settlement between Ukraine and Russia as the war has gone thus far would have been, because what else could Ukraine have possibly offered to convince Russia that it was worth it to give up their attack?) is not a wish for peace, its a wish for appeasement. It sounds like peace at first glance, sure, but by rewarding aggressive action, it gives every incentive for the aggressor to simply attack again later, in the hope of gaining more concessions. If this kind of policy led to peace, there never would have been a second world war. I do not like war the way you seem to think, but I do not want it tomorrow either. Ensuring that there is as little incentive as possible for those with the means to start them to do so, requires that those that start wars are not allowed to gain by doing so, and Russia has indisputably started this one, therefore to ensure peace, it must lose.
It would be great if all peace took was for everyone involved to sit down and talk, but as you say, the world is not like that.