Please grow up and stop resorting to childish insults.

Nobody cares about whether the assassin was ‘officially a democrat’. They want to know who he supports: the democrats, or the republicans. In NC independents can participate in primaries btw and he likely did so intending to f with them.

If someone accused you of being pro-Trump and you said “I’m registered independent” do you think they’d be like ‘oh, nm carry on then’?

Nope. You’re back to childish name-calling so I’m out.

I asked you first or do you not understand how math works? Calling me a liar when the numbers are right there. Talk about blatant dishonesty.

You understand that by registering Independent he is eligible to vote in both party primaries in NC right? Talk about not understanding basic US civics. The dude that disavowed Trump and wanted Haley to beat him, and supported Sanders, Gabbard, Biden, and now Harris, is clearly voting 3rd party.

If you’re registered as a Democrat, you’re a Democrat.

BEHOLD! What Squid thinks is a Democrat!

What do you say about people that wear MAGA hats but registered Democratic to F with DNC nominations?

You forgot to answer this one.

He also loudly declared he regretted doing so. Both these looney tunes wanna-be assassins were all over the place with their political leanings. Blindly assuming he isn’t a democrat when things like 19 donations to the Democratic party strongly suggest otherwise is myopic.

And what do you say when they wear a MAGA hat and loudly state they only registered Democrat to F with primaries?

You going to bat for Hannity’s conspiracy bullshit is very telling.

As is your seeming inability to understand basic reasoning.

I’m curious why you think he isn’t being labelled as Independent right off the bat by news agencies if registering Independent solidifies you as such? What do you say about people that wear MAGA hats but registered Democratic to F with DNC nominations?

I’m not going to bat for Hannity. I’m saying we shouldn’t be so smug as to assume he’s wrong about this guy. More importantly, that undecideds will agree and not be turned off by an obvious bias towards a belief of Democratic purity. That is how you lose votes.

I’m no longer as certain as I was, but 19 donations over 5 years is a strong argument making me think he is.

There is no ‘make up your mind’. There is only a building of evidence. Unless you’re willing to declare some objective standard for what everyone considers an ‘official Democrat’…

In the meantime, many people register into a party falsely to do things like manipulate primary votes and such. A common attack vector for the first would-be assassin as I recall. To say “he is or isn’t” is pretty much in the eye of the beholder and we’re discussing points undecideds will consider relevant.

My mind is currently leaning to ‘way too many people will think he is a Democrat for this to be good for Democrats’.

He donated money to the Democratic party 19x since 2019

Edit: citation

Okay, I see here he registered independent and expressed support for candidates of both parties this cycle. Still, his relevant support for Biden/Harris and that he recently donated money to the democratic party are what are going to give this accusation legs.

edit: recently

Isn’t this new guy that was arrested a Democrat?

Records show Routh, 58, lived in North Carolina for most of his life before moving to Hawaii in 2018. In 2020, he made a social media post backing Trump’s reelection, but in more recent years his posts have expressed support for Biden and Harris.

The first one wasn’t iirc so Hannity is full of it, but this attack has legs once they get the wording ‘right’. Assholes (Hannity + Assassin).

So now you presume to know what people say. Easier to answer the hypothetical imo. Weird choice. Your tap-dancing to avoid answering yes or no tells me my point is starting to sink in so I’ll leave it there.

We’re off topic and I’m done relitigating this. It’s really not that difficult a concept to understand. Read that wiki article I linked you about the Principle of Charity. It will really help you in the future.

Answer the ‘if’.

If Maya Angelou said ‘she became black’ would you still say it was racist?

Your seeming inability to comprehend the tenets of basic rational argumentation and outright refusal to accept what anyone says to you that you disagree with, supported or not, are glaring flaws in someone whose job it is to evaluate what people are saying in their forums and arbitrate fairly.

Did I not expressly agree that Trump is racist? Show me where I “excuse racism”. All I have done is simply (to some) state that “racism accusations are an unnecessary complication to successfully counter Trumps core argument”. As I’ve said already: if someone like MLK jr, or Al Sharpton, or Maya Angelou said “Kamala was pandering to her heritage” your ‘that person is racist!’ counter would be laughed at. It is besides the point. Nobody disagrees that Trump is racist. Let it go as it doesn’t matter for the best counter-argument.

Are you trying to argue that in the forums you actually moderate you suddenly smarten up and start thinking rationally? What changes in you from one link to another that performs this miraculous change?

Again, you’re a mod. Do better. Nowhere did I even imply ‘when I feel like it’.

You argue against the best version of the opponent’s argument. My argument transcends any accusations of racism, but does not preclude them which makes it the better form. You refusing to get that is sea-lioning at this point. Figureidout or let it go.