Facetious means “treating serious issues with deliberately inappropriate humor; flippant.” which is what the comment was

It was a facetious comment.

Thank you for kind words, and I do know that deep down. But being very, very familiar with Lebanon’s history, it makes me cry to think of everything these people have been through and the horrors awaiting them if this escalates. I know the Palestinians are going through the same thing now in Gaza, but for whatever reason the news of what may happen in Lebanon has hit me harder. It is probably due to my personal experiences being on the receiving end of antisemitism from a Lebanese person and feeling like I deserved it because of what “my people” did. When this happened to me, I didn’t understand. Why did he hate me? My family fled Europe and came to America. I have no connection aside from being Jewish to modern day Israel. I took that as an opportunity to learn about the history, if I am going to be associated with the actions of Israel then I should learn the history. Now I know the history, I can understand why they have that hate.

Nice antisemitism, buddy. Why can’t a Jewish person feel shame and sadness for the actions Israel has taken in Lebanon since June 6th, 1982?

Educate yourself: https://www.nytimes.com/1982/09/26/world/the-beirut-massacre-the-four-days.html

Man. I know the Palestinians have it rough, but the Lebanese do as well. That country has seen so much turmoil. I feel so sad for the people of Lebanon.

As a Jewish person, who has met Lebanese who hate me because of my ethnicity and said as much to me, I wish I could apologize for the atrocities committed either by Israel or with their permission over the many decades. I wish an apology from some random American Jew with no direct family from Israel can apologize for what “my people” have done. I am also an atheist, but I am praying for their safety. These people have suffered enough. The history of Lebanon is horrible, so much death and suffering. So much caused by the Israelis, Phalangist, Syrians, and yes, even the Palestinians. This whole situation hearts my heart.

edit: I’ll make clear, of course in this situation Israel needs to deal with Hezbollah. But Lebanese does not equal Hezbollah. Just like Palestinian does not equal Hamas.

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People need to get a fucking grip. How could you think to even do this?

if the US didn’t support Israel and took a neutral stance on the Palestine issue

I think we are agreeing with each other? I’m arguing modern relations. If the US did not align so closely with Israel over the last 80 years the situation would be different. But because we did, it is how it is today.

Edit: if you would, allow me to amend the comment you responded to. I inaccurately stated what I mean. We have alliances with Saudis, we have agreements with Egypt.

This article articulates the points I would like to make better than I could ever make them. It also agrees that American politics is a driving factor, of course it is. But also explains what I mean about strategically and intelligence wise.

https://www.vox.com/world-politics/23916266/us-israel-support-ally-gaza-war-aid

Edit2, the important bit from the article to support my view

Initially, Israel served as a countervailing force to Soviet influence, but this line of thinking persisted even after the Cold War. And it became even more pervasive after 9/11, when it was discovered that some of the perpetrators of the attack were citizens of Saudi Arabia, which the US counted as another key ally in the region. Doubting that it could continue to rely on the Saudis, the US leaned more heavily on Israel based on the perception that it had more shared values and interests. That includes a shared commitment to democracy, though Netanyahu’s undemocratic plan to overhaul the Israeli judiciary has recently put that in question.

“It’s not only a long-standing moral commitment; it’s a strategic commitment,” then-Vice President Biden said in 2013. “An independent Israel, secure in its own borders, recognized by the world is in the practical strategic interest of the United States of America. I used to say … if there were no Israel, we’d have to invent one.”

there are also some good books on the subject I can recommend.

I’m very well read on the subject, thank you. A lot has happened since 1948. Maybe read some more recent history yourself.

I can’t disagree more. Saudi Arabia is absolutely not an ally. Egypt is absolutely not an ally either. They may be strategically important, but the US can basically guarantee loyalty from the Israelis. No such loyalties will be found in Muslim nations. Egypt also does not have a recent history of stability. Israel is also the only “Western” nation in the Middle East.

Edit: allow me to clarify and see my responses to this. I am wrong in saying they are not allies. We are allies economically and militarily, but the relationship is not the same as the relationship with Israel. For many reasons, and those reasons, some expressed below, are why the US considers Israel the most important ally in the region. HOWEVER, things have been slowly changing in recent years. But how these relationships play out is yet to be seen.

The reality of the situation is that Israel is an extremely important ally in the region. They are our biggest intelligence partner in one of, if not the most important regions in the world politically and economically. Everyone around them is, to some extent, an adversary or enemy to the United States. Until these benefits they provide the United States in the region is outweighed by their atrocities there will be continued, almost unconditional support from the US government.

I hope so. He needed to go a decade ago, his time has hopefully come. Israelis should not forget that when this is over.

They know what they’re doing. The Israeli government’s hypocracy is deliberate. Labor may be less radical than the Likud, but they’re all Zionists.

Not the person you’re responding to but the second one. They will push into the north, then likely keep going. The writing is on the wall, they will eradicate Hamas and while doing so all of Gaza because Hamas hides amongst civilians. They know Hamas may go south as well while telling everyone else to remain where they are. It may even be part of their plan. They will commit atrocity in the name of peace, and Hamas will revel in it and commit more of their own atrocities as well.

Impressive may be the wrong word, but it is something, regardless of the source of the power. The levels they are able to go to without repercussion or ways they can take advantage of everything because of oil is something.

I was saying this earlier. The Saudis always manage to come out of any worldwide conflicts with more money and power than they started with. It’s impressive, honestly.

I believe it largely has to do with the peace agreement forming between Israel and Saudi Arabia combined with other factors in the region like the political instability in Israel and the protests that were ongoing, the Sukkot festival being a “good” target for terror, the holy holidays meaning many soldiers would be home with their families, and the soldiers were more heavily populated around the West Bank for Bebe’s bullshit up there, leaving the south more vulnerable, at least it seems that way to me.

But this is the end of a “two state solution” being possible. Look at Netanyahu’s tweet:

The IDF will immediately use all its strength to destroy Hamas’s capabilities. We will destroy them and we will forcefully avenge this dark day that they have forced on the State of Israel and its citizens. As Bialik wrote: ‘Revenge for the blood of a little child has yet been devised by Satan’.

All of the places which Hamas is deployed, hiding and operating in, that wicked city, we will turn them into rubble.

I say to the residents of Gaza: Leave now because we will operate forcefully everywhere.

And the Israeli ambassador to the U.S.'s speech was very clear, he said diplomacy is over. That today changes everything and the old way with peace talks and humanitarian aid is over.

The levels of barbarity are not equal. This is a massive escalation that it can not be quantified. Israel has done some horrible shit. Some seriously horrible shit. But this? This day will forever change that region, possibly the world. It’s unconscionable what has happened.

Edit: the moron I responded to blocked me, so I apologize to the two terrorist sympathizers who have responded to me. I can’t see or reply to your messages. I’m sure you’ve been told countless times that the only thing that chart shows is who has the stronger military. It does not convince anyone with the ability for critical thought to also support your fucking jihadists. You are supporting murder of innocent civilians, you are supporting rape, you are supporting the slaughter and exploitation of both Israelis and Palestinians by supporting Hamas. You’re disgusting, horrible people. Get lost.

edit2: I’ll return your picture with another picture, NSFL. You stupid cunts. Want more pictures? I’m sure you haven’t seen the ones that matter. Show me the Palestinian concert that Israel went and slaughtered 260 young adults at? There were non-Israelis in the crowd. Americans, Thai, Filipino, people. Where are they listed on your chart? Why do they deserve to die?

Thank you so much for putting into words what I’ve been struggling to say. The insanity I’ve seen on the internet is boggling my mind. So much horrible shit is happening, and people feel the need to cheer.

Well said.

Unfortunately, that is where we are heading for sure. My cousin was just called to fight from the US. They’re mobilizing their entire military and calling all reserves. They have declared they will not stop until they “obliterate” Hamas. The US is moving the USS Gerold R. Ford aircraft carrier and several warships into the mediterranean as a show of solidarity, to ward off anyone else thinking they can take advantage of the situation. This is a fucking disaster. The entire country is now unified with one mission. It’s terrifying for everyone in the region. This conflict will be long and many will die. Gaza is one of the absolute worst places to fight. 2 million people in 140 sq miles.