In India. US number is 35%, here are some numbers for Europe: https://i.redd.it/d8udyq9edyhc1.png

That’s very funny.

Average in the US for a 2 bedroom is $1317 per statista.

Triple that for a monthly income = $3951

x12 for annual = $47,412

/2080 for hourly full time = $22.79/hr

A 1 bedroom (or 2br with a $200/mo UBI) at $1100ish brings the minimum to $19ish.

A 2 bedroom but working 60hrs/week or using 50% of income on rent instead of 33% is around $15/hr.

Just trying to play around with the numbers to see what a real political proposal might look like. Feels great to meme a declaration, people start disagreeing when you start putting numbers to it.

Their point is that they agree with you 100% on slavery, but this isn’t slavery.

Why are 50 percent of prisoners minorities?

Because the system is racist and bad and minorities are disproportionately imprisoned. Nobody here is arguing against that. They are just pointing out that if 50% of the “enslaved” are white, that is a different sort of thing than the race-specific enslavement of black people. Things can be not-literal-slavery while still being bad.

What happens if you refuse to work?

I assume you can’t refuse without a medical exception of some kind. These are imprisoned people, they also can’t leave. Not trying to excuse everything about prison labor but as a society we have decided the state has the capacity to remove rights from people as a punishment after due process has been afforded to them. We can argue that it’s not right or humane to force labor on an imprisoned population without saying it’s literally slavery. “It’s not literally slavery” is not a defense of the system.

We’re not arguing “well prisoners can’t be sold to other prisons so that proves it’s not slavery” because that one difference doesn’t prove anything, just like one similarity doesn’t prove anything.

It may not be inherited at birth but is the system setup to capture successive generations of prisoners from the same families?

…no? Even if you include Capitalism and wealth inequality and racist policing as part of “the system” maybe members of the same family are disproportionately likely to be imprisoned because they are the same race and likely similar economic status, that isn’t because a parent was imprisoned. There’s nothing targeting children of imprisoned people. And even then, you’re trying to compare disproportionate odds to be imprisoned to literal 100% ownership of slaves’ children by slave masters? What are we talking about here?

It’s also time-bound for the length of the sentence. So like sure it’s slavery…temporarily, non-inherited, non-race-specific, as a punishment for a crime, at least sometimes paid.

Which is just a lot of caveats.

Similarly, having a job is just temporary, non-inherited, non-race-specific paid slavery where you get to pick your slave master. Sure you can make that argument but it’s not a very good one.

A lot of stuff about the US prison system is really bad, including this part, it’s just not literally slavery, and it doesn’t have to be slavery to be really bad and need changing.

You can put fake meetings on your calendar and say “oh, gotta get to my 2:30”.

Pretty sure it should be “valuation”

Direct Drive tech reduced the number of moving parts so low that it put Big Washer Repair out of business and they had to develop other ways to monetize your laundry.

Personally I had way too many quality issues at that price range. An earbud would be randomly quieter than the other, the battery of an earbud would die, the Bluetooth would suck, or they would be unusable for phone calls. I bought refurbished $100-something headphones for $70 and haven’t needed to buy any more since.

There’s a famous example of the poverty trap that uses boots that fall apart every season vs quality boots that last, and I think there is a quality level that is so bad it’s more expensive in the long run. So I do buy shoes that cost money. But I’m not buying fashion shoes or luxury brand shoes which I think is what you’re saying too.

That’s kind of like saying sports cars are the transportation equivalent of a painting because they are made to look good. I guess you could say that, but it’s not really a useful metaphor if they only have the one thing in common and they’re both things everyone would be familiar with so you’re not translating into more common experience.

It’s not for doing nothing, it’s for doing things he already did. He got the stock as part of his compensation plan at Microsoft.

And a dividend of $0.75 per share is 0.2% interest at the current share price, he could get more in a savings account and 20x that in a CD or something. The dividend isn’t crazy high. He just had a shitload of their stock.

Executive compensation as a whole is a story, but Steve Ballmer is not doing anything particularly noteworthy.

This comment did not go where I thought it was going but very interesting. You’re clearly making the right call for your personal finances.

I assumed you were going to say something about like expensive composting equipment or aluminum straws.

That ‘immigration is bad’ would actually be the vastly more common incorrect belief.

This is extremely common, the purpose is to prevent or at least identify racist hiring practices. How else are they supposed to know? They get an idea of who is applying, and an idea of who gets hired, and they can look at population statistics, and thus tell whether a disproportionate amount of certain minority groups are being rejected by a certain manager or the company as a whole.

Or alternatively you can tell if a job posting disproportionately has applicants of a certain demographic, so maybe white men tend to be hired in that job but it’s because the applicant pool is 95% white men. That would show that it’s not necessarily the hiring managers with the issue but either the HR outreach or the job itself has requirements disproportionately held by white men, and you can decide if that means you need to change something or that’s just something you need to live with for this role.

It’s allowed as long as it is only used for these purposes.

I had a job for a really long time with no raise, finally quit a few months before my job became minimum wage.

Trump appeared on Epstein’s flight logs at least 7 times confirmed in a court of law it’s not even conjecture to say he is on there.

There is literally no evidence or reason to believe Biden is on the list.

But BoTh sIdEs

What a quote. Unions are literally the thing that stops a lords and peasants kind of thing.

My first big corporate job had internal salary ranges posted for when you’re looking at a new job within the same company, and I had to reckon with this as a new employee. I’d see basically my job posted with my salary on the far low end of the possible range and when I discussed it with folks I learned that the posted median salary is the median for everybody in that job, including people with 10 years of experience etc. So even if I’m impressing as a kid fresh out of college, the median isn’t the right metric to judge myself against.