You’re still right, though - talking about closest planet on average isn’t very useful, because it’s always going to be the closest planet to the sun. Asking “what planet can get closest to some [Planet]” is more interesting and enlightening.

Yeah, I can get their desire to vet users before they can join their instance, but for me (and I suspect a lot of other people who are just starting with Lemmy, or just shy people) the effort of making a social interaction with a stranger was enough of a turn off that I went elsewhere. Beehaw still seems nice, I may still make an account there at some point. But, to figure out if a place suits me, first I lurk, then I engage by voting, then I engage by commenting, and eventually I may eventually post. I get applications, but they feel intrusive to how I use the internet.

I also get why they defederated, frankly there’s a tonne of low effort from the big new instances. However, everyone should expect low effort right now because users are antsy from having left reddit, and the low effort posts are the anxious laughter of people new to the party who don’t know anyone yet. So the defederation isn’t a good look, and will cause bad feeling with and within beehaw, so their mods have my sympathy. Better to have enabled downvoting and let the community handle the low effort posts.

So far so good - sh.itjust.works was showing off a solid looking infrastructure (which is so far seamless), so I joined there.

It feels a lot like 2010 era reddit in terms of content, with a whole bunch of people trying to resurrect memes and communities that grew up organically on reddit. I’m not sure if it’ll work that way, because there’s a natural difference in userbase, but best of luck to them. I worry that the difficulty of getting NSFW content online is going to give reddit a perpetual competitive edge, but totally appreciate the legal/moral difficulties wherein.

It took a bit to figure out how to sub to new communities, and along with a lot of other newbs, I’m hoping that that’s something that can be tightened up. Like, a browser extension or something that could recognise you’re logged into some instance, and then create a subscribe link on the page rather than the weird copy-paste-into-searchbar dance that seems to be the standard at the moment.

Overall, great to see that this works and grows. My thanks to the instance hosts and mods.

I’m still using it because old.reddit.com still works, and until it doesn’t, I probably will. That said, I’d rather the fediverse thrive than the increasingly corporate-beholden reddit does, so I’ll favour what sparse engagement I make to a lemmy instance first.

I think what’s hardest to replace from reddit is the absolutely monstrous archive of posts and discussions, which seems to be a bit of a two-edged sword for them (if the official statements are to be believed) - it costs a tonne in hosting, but makes them the most relevant source for real human discourse. This needs to be handled better, and ideally I’d want to see:

• Some sort of archive.reddit.com. Minimal, flat html, ideally anonymised as much as computer-ly possible to help with the inevitable privacy issues this would raise.
• Some sort of mobile.old.reddit.com, as they seem incapable of making an app without bloaty (both visual and bandwidth wise) “features”. Call me a boomer, but if I can do something without a specific app, I would rather do it that way.
• Separate i.reddit.com and v.reddit.com into different companies from the main reddit, reddit should be link aggregation and discussion, content hosting seems like a costly thing to try and monopolise.
• If it really costs so much to run the APIs, I’d rather see more user-based rate limiting than price gouging to discourage bad actors. I do not think that is why they are price gouging, but am trying to assume good faith on their part for discussions’ sake.

I know I’m an idiot, and some of these are possibly already done and I just haven’t looked hard enough, probably some are impossible for obvious reasons I haven’t seen. Though even if reddit as a company turned around and tried to become a curator of the discussions it holds rather than milk it’s current audience dry with ads, I’d still rather see lemmy out-compete it. Protocol > Platform.