I swear if I get another Word document with nothing more than a screenshot pasted inside I’m going to run off a cliff. Everyday at work. Microsoft must love this.

Cum again?

You need to charge your phone

Pussy is what he said. Don’t whitewash it.

Nope

I don’t understand a dad joke that never sets itself up to be executed in real life. This is a clever play on words, as are most of the jokes here, but I only value a dad joke that I can reasonably exercise in the moment. How do I make use of this unless my kid happens to ask about minivans giving birth?

Must blend all humans

Please don’t resort to those words. I am entitled to my opinion in this community without being told to fuck off.

You have a right to comment, but this community has a right to civil discourse.

I’m tired of talking to you because you keep trying to put words in my mouth or creating alternate understandings for which I am clearly stating my opinion. So you can “win” based on my own exhaustion of your rhetoric against mine. I’ve stated my piece and do not desire to argue it further. I hope you have a nice day and despite my desire to end the discussion, I hope you can appreciate my opinion in at least some form. Good night.

Do you think anyone (regardless of race) should have received that level of response in that situation ?

As with any dispute, both parties can always strive for more, but I try to put myself in the cop’s situation. How long is long enough before you have to pull somebody who is clearly not cooperating from their car? Not following a lawful order during a traffic stop is a misdemeanor, which means you may be exiting your vehicle whether you like it or not.

Do you think anyone (regardless of race) would have received that level of response in that situation ?

I am positive racism plays a part in policing. But I didn’t see anything in this that leads me to believe Tyreek’s skin color affected his outcome. I’m a white dude and I easily see this happening to me if I did what he did.

I’m sorry he got pulled from his car and cuffed, but my reaction to the video was that he had this coming.

I’d personally view that as two opposing viewpoints, either you think he had it coming or you’re sorry it happened.

They are not opposing or mutually exclusive viewpoints. I can be sorry for someone for the outcome they have been dealt based on their own actions. I can be sorry for him but also unsurprised.

In these exact same circumstances, you’d expect a white person to be treated in the exact same way ?

Yes, I truly feel this way in these circumstances. Perhaps I’m a naive idiot, but I just didn’t sense that he was treated that unfairly given his actions.

How does this relate to domestic abuse and what did I say to imply that I am one who would do such a thing?

No, I don’t. I don’t believe I stated that.

This is what I greatly dislike within this community. Why must you resort to calling me names because you disagree with my point of view? Your view of my opinion on an isolated matter does not make me those things and I don’t appreciate it.

Just slap a label on me and make that your reason to be “correct”. This place sadly does not support opposing points of view that are thoughtfully made without cutting each other down and calling people names.

I find it interesting how some folks feel this is entirely an issue of policing gone wrong. There can be no fault for Tyreek here, apparently.

In Florida, the traffic code states that not following an officer’s lawful order or direction is a misdemeanor offense. It allows the police officer to remove Tyreek from his car and cuff him.

And why not?

Please stop calling me a bootlicker. It’s not necessary for this conversation to occur.

It was Tyreek not following directions and making the inside of his car not clearly visible to the officer (despite his requests). That creates a safety problem for the officer. This was the main issue IMO. If words don’t work and the citizen is not cooperating then I’m curious what is the next step besides pulling the guy from his car?

Squid - I think your arguments are subjective at best. Because I saw a white guy get away with more doesn’t mean that this is an issue of race and your sample size of n=1 doesn’t hold a lot of weight for your argument either. I’m a white guy and I would never dream of acting out like Tyreek did for fear that the same thing could happen to me. I have a hard time seeing race as the issue based on what I saw. Tyreek even said he was embarrassed after the fact. He didn’t handle this situation well at all.

Fine but those situations are not the same as “angry and noncooperative citizen disobeying my request and I can no longer see what is happening inside the vehicle.”

I would argue that this is actually the correct situation for a police officer to feel more concerned for their safety.