Stoneykins [any]

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Cake day: July 30th, 2023

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  • Stoneykins [any]@mander.xyzto196@lemmy.blahaj.zonerule problem
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    6 months ago

    Not to be rude but this is an oversimplified and incorrect view of voting and is the exact kind of mindset I am against.

    If you try to insist non-voting is somehow support for a specific candidate, what does that say about people who can’t vote for personal/health reasons? If someone working poverty wages, unable to get the day off to vote, can’t get their vote counted, are they somehow a bad person?

    Additionally, although less significant, I can’t consider it morally wrong, ever, to vote third party. Strategically wrong, sure, it often is, but the point of a vote is to choose, and I can’t blame someone for using their right to choose to be an idealist rather than a strategist. And honestly, in an election like this with so much frustration towards the major parties, 3rd party has a better chance of winning than usual… although I’m sure that is a stressful and unpleasant thing to hear if you dislike third parties.



  • Stoneykins [any]@mander.xyzto196@lemmy.blahaj.zonerule problem
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    6 months ago

    I just want to point out a thing said in this, that I have seen said hundreds of other times, which is not correct.

    Due to the spoiler effect, a leftist vote for a third party candidate is essentially a vote for trump

    This is incorrect, most charitably interpreted as an exaggeration, but it is said so often I think people are misunderstanding the spoiler effect.

    The spoiler effect is real and it can suppress a victory of not-as-bad candidates if they have a popular opposition, but it is never as bad as “essentially voting for trump”. It is equivalent to not voting at all, at worst.

    And it is also a simplification of the situation to imply that the spoiler effect only affects democrats. There is a similar thing going on with conservative third parties.












  • Lmao you don’t really even know what you are talking about.

    “Free speech” means the government itself cannot infringe your speech. It doesn’t mean SHIT to anyone who isn’t the government. “The court of public opinion” is not a literal court! And it is a group expression of the free speech you love!

    You are just bitching about people being deplatformed off of privately owned websites (which isn’t what happened to this asshole because he is on fuckin netflix) and you want to be dramatic and make it seem like they are all victims and need to be protected based on your misunderstanding of law