The person claiming this is @TheBestFigen. And who is that? Why are they reporting this? You don’t trust random sources on twitter for news.

Idk but they have more than a million followers. If someone with that reach posts misleading information it’s good to correct it.

“Finish the job” to me means giving them much more support than now, and having them annihilate any kind of Palestinian resistance. Basically Israel wins, there is no Palestine anymore, and Islamic people in Gaza get treated like Uyghurs in China.

That would’ve caused the same amount of casualties, if not more, and ensured every surviving Palestinian would be forced to live as a subhuman. And even if I’m wrong, it doesn’t really change much if you draw the line at “aiding a genocide”. A 3-month genocide is still a genocide.

No one is saying Biden isn’t responsible for the genocide. The thing is, issues were already clear during the Trump mandate and he didn’t do anything to stop them either. I’m convinced if this was Trump’s second term, the situation would be much worse (aka, in his words, they would’ve already “finished the job”).

The difference is the Holocaust happened a long time ago, and Trump wasn’t even alive at the time.

The whole Gaza genocide escalated after his four years of presidency which have seen him support Netanyahu (and vice versa).

Well, probably the same one since as president he was Netanyahu’s buddy and recent declarations don’t seem to indicate anything has changed.

Afaik, it’s not really that clear.

I mean, it’s pretty clear Trump was very close with Epstein, and that already paints a very bad picture, but it seems like the whole Jane Doe case never got anywhere, and no one is sure she even exists.

Ehh… that depends too. Here in Italy there’s plenty of people that wouldn’t bat an eye at their 10-year old playing CoD and shooting people in the most graphic ways possible, as long as there’s no female nipples in sight.

Just a correction, it isn’t entirely certain whether he killed himself or not. The apple wasn’t tested for cyanide and the chances he just inhaled too much while working are considerable.

Well, not that it changes anything about the horrible treatment he received because of his orientation though.

It’s not even a real ad, btw.

Hey, the situation isn’t so grim. At a certain point, old people will die and maybe then we’ll be able to elect sensible politicians.

He’s a whistleblower. Corrupt corpos/countries hate whistleblowers. Reddit/Lemmy users hate corrupt corpos/countries. There.

It’s as easy as that, no need to bring out conspiracies.

“May God strike them dead. We will on November 5th”

…is a “win” missing or are they openly saying they’ll kill them on election day?

Can Italy join the club? We fit the description pretty well too!

The video in question, since links in the article lead to nothing

Because they don’t win due to neoliberalism, they win due to their opponent being the literal antichrist. The point is to force Republicans to change their (supposedly) losing strategy, and have Dems react to that.

You can see how, for example, after the three consecutive Republican terms of ‘80-‘92, Democratic candidates have shifted more towards the right on average, in order to recapture more “average” voters.

I don’t have the competence to lay down accurately the process or know the best examples for it, but it’s pretty much basic game theory. If you keep losing consensus you have to adjust your strategy to be more similar to whoever is winning.

I know there’s alternatives, my point was just that voting Dem doesn’t preclude, or slow down, any of them.

My argument here was that voting for Dems does not move them left, so I’m not sure how protest is relevant.

It eventually has to. But they have to win a lot for that to happen. In the past 80 years, the US never had three consecutive Dem terms, which means the needle is very much in between of the two parties (if not leaning right since Republicans actually had them once). So both can continue with their current policies and hope to be elected.

In the end that’s what matters to politicians, more than upholding any values they might champion: getting elected. Therefore the only way to shift the window in a FPTP system (barring violent protests, which are viable but a different matter), is to keep electing one party and send the message to the other that, unless they calm the fuck down, they’re not getting the seat ever again.

There’s no way that after three or four consecutive Dem terms Republicans will still keep campaigning on killing abortion and LGBT rights. They want that seat, and, like every political party in a similar system, they’ll compromise to get it. At that point, when their opponent isn’t a cartoon villain anymore, Dems will lose their main selling point and will be forced to prop up actual leftist policies to retain votes.

We can’t afford to keep this status quo for another generation, we are destroying the planet.

And what’s the alternative? I mean, there’s a lot of stuff that can be done, but voting for Biden (or whoever is the leftmost candidate between the main two parties) doesn’t prevent you from doing any of that. You can do that and organize, go to protests and whatnot.

If that was true, liberal, you wouldn’t be in this pickle, would you? How long have you libs been voting for the “lesser evil” now?

Remind me the last time the US had three consecutive Democratic terms? 80 years ago? Not sure why you’re saying something isn’t working when it hasn’t even happened.

you cannot - I repeat cannot - move the Overton window left by voting for right-wingers.

Yes you can. You can lower the temperature of something by pouring over it something hot, but less hot than what you’re trying to cool down.

In the same way, voting for a right-winger over a far right-winger will shift the Overton window to the left. Because left and right are relative terms, like the other guy was trying to say.

Democrats have won more elections than Republicans, yet they have moved to the right. So what will it take to move them left?

They haven’t won enough. If people like Bernie are still losing primaries because “commies won’t win general elections” and Dems still have to go for the “middle-of-the-road” candidate while Republicans can prop up the literal antichrist, that means they still haven’t won enough to cause a shift.

Once they get enough wins (possibly in a row) that Republicans are the ones forced to go for a “middle-of-the-road” candidate, that’s when Dems will actually have to act as a left wing party to get votes.

EDIT: also, unless I miscounted, Dems actually have less wins than Republicans post-FDR.